Formula 1 team - Scuderia Ferrari [F1-75]

[Vuksa_KC]

prednji kraj jako visok, podsjeća me na ferrarije iz 97, 98, 99

Da, ali changes changes, modifications modifications samo napominju...

[gringo73]

Čini mi se da ćemo pravo izdanje vidit tek u Valenciji...

[majstor iz maranella]

do kolko traje taj prijenos?

[Vuksa_KC]

do kolko traje taj prijenos?

Do 11.

[majstor iz maranella]

fala. nekak mi je ljepši prošlogodišnji, nemrem prožvakat nos ovaj

[Forza]

[majstor iz maranella]

pokrov motora ima nekakav prorez na sebi, izgleda moćno

[drsrle]

Iznenadio sam se pravo u negativnom smislu,
prošlogodišnji je bio ljepši. Ne znam sta se krije ispod pokrova ali ovdje mi nesto smrdi, bojim da su opet fulali bolid.
Nos mi se ne svidja nikako, očekivao sam veće užljebljenje, zadnji kraj je ok.
Uglavnom nista previše radikalno, do Bahreina ima dosta pa ćemo vidjeti.
JEdino znam da je bolid napravljen od neke super lake strukture, i to me raduje zbog kers-a.

[King iCool]

Meni vizualno jako sličan prošlogodišnjem bolidu, a prošlogodišnji mi je ličio na onog iz 2009.. Ali iz nutra je sigurno sasvim drugačiji.
Evo taj nos.

[majstor iz maranella]

ovajviše meni nekak liči na f60, jedva da ima ovog žlijeba...

[Forza]

[majstor iz maranella]

e ta rupa iznad vozača možda ima veze za otvorima (prorezima) na kraju ovog znaka scuderije na poklopcu motora. a ova druga šta je zaokružena to je mislim rupa kroz koju prođe ona traka da dizalica može dignut auto

[drsrle]

vidim da su otvori za hladjenje motora spusteni nize prema podnici

[drsrle]

vidim da su otvori za hladjenje motora spusteni nize prema podnici

[Forza]

[Vleki]

meni je lijep, malo masivniji u odnosu na gume i nos je malo veći, ali ipak ostaje elegantan. lijep bolid, ferrarijevci možete se ponositi

[majstor iz maranella]

ovak sprijeda i je lijep

[drsrle]

baterije od kersa su smjestene sa strana, bolid ima ovako dugačak nos radi boljeg balansa
ultra-laka karoserija od nekih light materijala, to najavljuju kao krucijalnu prednost kao i izrada komponenti motora od istog materijala
ferrari ima najbolje razvijen kers sistem, pull road suspenzija i mercedesov pokrov motora

[K1M1]

Očekivao sam veće promjene u odnosu na prošlogidišnji, presličan mi je f10.
Al još će se promijenit do prve utrke...
usporedba sprijeda:

f10


f150

[One and only]

Nos je dosta viši nego prošlogodišnji. Sidepods masivniji nego prošlogodišnji, vjerovatno zbog povećane potrebe za hlađenjem. Dosta oštrije linije i veći pad prema nazad. Prednji otvori na njima kao neka mješavina F10 i MP4-25.
Prednje krilo prošlogodišnje.
Stražnje jako zanimljivo. Umjesto dva vertikalna usmjerivača ispod krila, samo jedan i čini se kao da je povezan sa spliterom na stražnjem krilu. Podsjeća na Mercedesov pasivni F-duct od prošle sezone. Da nisu našli neku rupu u pravilima? S bočne strane krilo izgleda dosta masivno. Na vrhu krila v prorez.
Airbox i pokrov motora dosta izmjenjeni. Pokrov ima prorez na kraju vjerovatno zbog hlađenja.
Prednji ovjes dosta drugačiji nego prošlogodišnji. Navodno je Ferrari razvio neki ovjes na osnovu RBR-ovog, ali da je Ferrarijev dosta napredniji i da omogućava ravnomjernu raspodjelu težine na sve točkove što bi značilo da auto ima strašno dobar balans.
Aero riješenja će se dosta promjeniti do Bahreina, tako da ih nema puno ni smisla analizirati. Osnova auta koja se neće mijenjati je po mom mišljenju dobra i omogućava dobar potencijal za daljnji razvoj. Jedino što me ljuti je veliki utjecaj Neweya.

[F1NAC]

sad gledam na stranici od ferrarija i vidima da ce bit komentar alonsa nakon voznje danas s f150 oko 8.30

[Buba]

taj ovjes je krucijalan sto su napravili i ako bude tako dobro radio kao sto kazu da radi mogao bi im biti vitalna prednost do titule...ne sumnjam da ce se boriti za nju

[Forza]

Ferrari confirm "The positioning of the KERS {battery} within the fuel cell "

[F2004_the_best_ever]

Ovo što su prikazali na prezentaciji i očekivao sam da ću vidjeti.
Već su kolege pisale o promjenama koje se za sada mogu uočiti na novom bolidu tako da ih ja ne ponavljam ponovo.
O ljepoti F150 je diskutabilno pisati, meni je svaki Ferrari lijep na svoj način, brzina je važna a naznake te brzine ćemo vidjeti na testovima a pravu brzinu i finalnu specifikaciju F150 vidjet ćemo u Bahreinu.
Nadam se da nas ferariste F150 neće razočarat.

[Forza]

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Ferrari F150 – Launch detail & Analysis

Ferrari launched their F150 today in Maranello. While the car sports some interesting features, overall it must be seen as a conventional and literal approach to the new rules and carries the influence of the team’s two previous cars. This approach seems to suit Ferrari who has not worked well with extreme innovation in the past. They keep the car simple and gain the most potential from it. We can expect more extreme concept cars from several teams next week.

Firstly the front wing is last years; it even has the driver adjustable mechanism which is no longer allowed in 2011. However the nose cone will be fairly definitive, as it needs to match the front of the chassis and being a homologated part, cannot be structurally changed during the season. This front wing may be on the car for the opening test runs, but we will soon see an interim 2011 wing before a final version appears for Bahrain.
One by-product of the new rules restricting front chassis height is that a V-nose might not be desirable. As the height of the dash and front bulkheads are limited to a maximum height, the “V” nose might be inefficient. V-noses allowed more flow under the car without putting too much heavy structure high up. Now to maximise space under the nose we might see a return to the simpler rectangular chassis cross section, with the top edge at the 670mm limit, which creates the most space underneath. Thus the Ferrari has a near flat top and the line from the cockpit opening rises up 45mm from the dash to the front wheels.

The section of chassis attaching the suspension (subjectively) appears to longer. As the drivers feet do not sit within this section of chassis, mechanical parts can be placed there. Ferrari appears to have placed the front torsion bars at an unusual angle, in a V pointed towards the front. Thus to remove the torsion bars they come out backwards via a hole just behind the upper wishbone (near the “R” of “Santander”). Access hatches on the top of the chassis allow access to the pedals, heave spring and GPS aerial. Otherwise the front wishbone arrangement appears conventional, with the steering rack placed lower than the upper wishbone for better CofG and steering arm geometry.

Aero around the front end is largely carried over from 2010, with vanes hanging from the nose cone then larger bargeboards and pod wings mounted ahead of the sidepods. We can expect these to change in detail before Bahrain, Relatively simple mirrors are fitted and mated to a fin\vortex generator below. Similarly the roll hoop is a simple design, not as undercut as others. The sidepods themselves are an evolution of ideas from the past two years. The inlets have been made into a more distinct sideways “U” shape and the distinctive peak above the inlet is still there. This peak is now allied to a small removable panel, what this is for is not clear. As it appears the radiators are further back down the sidepod, following the same line as the break in the forward and rear section of sidepod bodywork. The panel might be for a cooling outlet, but perhaps for smaller oil\KERS coolers mounted alone in this area. The revised sidepod inlet creates a more aggressive undercut, although the sidepod has to be relatively wide (between the Shell and Acer logo) for the radiators to fit between the fuel tank and bodywork.
Sidepods then sweep into a coke bottle shape with a generous hot air outlet at its tail, this rear opening also houses the exhausts that blow over the diffuser. The top body no longer sports a shark fin; a simple upstand is used in its place, although no doubt the fin may return in testing. As was raced last year the bodywork either side of the fin opens up to allow cooling.

At the back the rear wing is a new departure for Ferrari, the entire wing is mounted to the central pylon, and then the beam wing spans the endplates and sits fully expose din the airflow. It’s been Ferrari practice to split the beam wing either side of the crash structure for many years. The top rear wing is new, with the mechanism to allow the wing to open the slot up apparently inside the wings supporting pylon. The curved bracket protruding from the pylon moves up and down, probably by hydraulics fed up from the gearbox, to alter the wings flap position. Its possible to see the how the flap pivots via pins set into the flap trailing edge. A distinct “V” has been cut into the flaps trailing edge, probably to reduce its effective geometry, as it sits in airflow obstructed by the engine cover and wing adjusting mechanism.
With very few detailed of the diffuser, it appears its a very simple diffuser which echoes the single decker design Ferrari first raced with in 2009. No doubt the gurney, inner fences and boat tail will alter as the team gets more performance from the diffuser.
Being careful not to read too much into the cars launch specification the front wheels appear to be based on the 2010 vaned versions. New rules specify a minimum surface area for spokes and other similar parts of the wheel. Perhaps the narrow spokes make up for the surface area taken up by the vanes.

One item raised by Ferrari was their innovative suspension system, not the pull rod system that many expected, as the car boasts push rods at both ends. But Ferrari were rumoured around the pit lane to have run an interconnected suspension system last year. The front and rear suspension being linked to control the cars attitude. This could either be to control pitch (the nose rising or lowering through acceleration/braking) or warp (a mix of pitch and roll). Apparently used by Toyota and Williams without success in the past, this passive system could aid aerodynamics by keeping the underfloor in the correct attitude relative the track.

As double diffusers are banned the advantage to inclining the engine and gearbox by 3-degrees is lost now, so we can expect the engine is again mounted horizontal. With engines frozen, the only changes are reliability alterations (with the FIA’s permission) or changes to accommodate KERS. Ferraris engine man Luca Marmorini announced more changes to the engines pneumatic valve system (PVRS). This area was changed after reliability problems last year in the early races. Marmorini, who came back to Ferrari from Toyota, is thought to have brought ideas for a more efficient PVRS system with him. Worth not only reliability, but a increase in performance through lower friction and less engine degradation over the course its 3-4 races. The KERS system places the MGU offset from the front of the crank and attached to the oil tank, as the unit is cooled by the engines oil. The oil tank is quite large and Ferrari are suggested to also run another tank above the clutch within the gearbox.
The KERS battery pack is mounted inside the monocoque under the fuel tank (not within the actual tank and petrol!). As the batteries are denser than fuel this keeps a low CofG, already most teams have several centimeters of space under the fuel taken up by blocks of ballast, rising the fuel tank by an equal amount. One area Ferrari were clear that they have improved KERS on this year is the way the MGU charges when the car brakes. Marmorini stated this was improving the “dragging” of the system.

Little word has been made on the gearbox, Ferrari have adopted a titanium skeleton with bonded on carbon fibre panels for several years. Aside from the packaging of the pushrod suspension, this is expected to be largely carried over this year.