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Post Postao/la Cuky » 16 pro 2019, 19:31

još kad bi linkao na taj članak tako da možemo i sami vidjeti odakle je... ovako kad samo citiraš, to može biti od bilo kuda. Nemamo nikakav kontekst, nemamo nikakav izvor... ništa, samo rekla-kazala.
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Post Postao/la Vuksa_KC » 16 pro 2019, 21:38

Zanimljivo štivo kolegi Popeyeu, jer bitno da Ferrari pati :biggrin:
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Post Postao/la popeye » 17 pro 2019, 13:56

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Zanimljivo štivo kolegi Popeyeu, jer bitno da Ferrari pati :biggrin:
da sam to hteo stavio bi u temu "Ferari" ali znam da tamo nije pogodno zbog finca :biggrin:

Caki ovo stoji na dva velika strana foruma autosportu i f1 tehnikalu i komentarise se niko nije obriso kao sto sam ovde doziveo pretnje da se nesto brise jer nije zvanicno. naravno da nije zvanicno kao ni one brojke o motorima kao ni milion drugih stvari o kojima smo diskutovali. inace kazu da je taj lik insajder u Mercedesu.
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Post Postao/la Cuky » 17 pro 2019, 14:06

Nije problem u tome što nije službeno. Samo bi bilo dobro da se podijeli link odakle je stigao citat (bio to neki od "velikih" sajtova, post na forumu ili post na nekoj od društvenih mreža). Razlog je jednostavan: da možemo svi vidjeti odakle je došlo i da možemo, ako je kao u slučaju koji si sad spomenuo, pratiti daljnju raspravu na tu temu na forumu sa kojeg je priča možda potekla.
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Post Postao/la popeye » 17 pro 2019, 15:45

pa ja sam ga nasao na autosport forumu adresu valjda znas a kopiran je sa f1 tehnikal foruma.
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Post Postao/la Cuky » 17 pro 2019, 17:10

Ovo mi je inače jedan od najvećih "pet-peeve" na internetu, kad nekog pitam za izvore nečega i onda mi kaže da valjda znam adresu ili da potražim sam.

Ovdje sam se sad potrudio sam naći, ali ubuduće bih te molio (a i svih nas) da svaki članak ili post potkrijepiš sa linkom gdje si to našao. Tako će komunikacija i rasprava nam svima biti lakša (evo si i u Ferrari temi kopirao članak bez ikakvog linka npr.)

Link za ovaj gore post o motorima kojeg je popeye kopirao
https://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewt ... 90#p878972
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Post Postao/la popeye » 17 pro 2019, 17:24

nastavicemo privatno da ne oftopicarimo ovde
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Ja bi molio modove da ubuduce odrade svoj posao.
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Post Postao/la Cuky » 17 sij 2020, 11:53

Mercedes će predstavljanje i prvu vožnju novog W11 imati 14. veljače. Baš kao i prošle godine događaj neće biti otvoren za javnost i medije
https://www.racefans.net/2020/01/17/mer ... n-for-w11/
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Post Postao/la popeye » 20 sij 2020, 15:45

Stroll and Wolff, plan to take over Mercedes
The rumors about a possible Mercedes withdrawal have involved in a political intertwining Lawrence Stroll, Toto Wolff, the Aston Martin brand, a veto Ferrari and Liberty Media

In the event that the Daimler group decides to unplug the Mercedes program in Formula 1, considering it too expensive or not very profitable from the point of view of economic return, there may already be two potential paddock personalities able to take charge of saving the team.

The rumors, circulated on the f1-insider-com website (managed by the German journalist Ralf Bach, a veteran of the Circus), would give Lawrence Stroll and Toto Wolff ready to take over the Anglo-German team, with roles respectively of president and team principal. The political plots that led to this scenario would be quite complex.

First of all, the Mercedes situation should be assessed. The team has won everything that could be won from 2014 to today, without a doubt. However, the symphony would no longer be economically pleasing for the Daimler group, which faces a critical moment for the automotive industry. The transition to electricity, the constant threat of tariffs, the relationship with the markets to be reconsidered, the cutting of staff: all of these problems can potentially be solved even with the money 'deductible' from the racing program. Bernie Ecclestone added a remarkable comment to the matter: " the mere fact that they have not signed the agreement pact that will go beyond 2021 is a strange signal ".

In the event of Mercedes being abandoned, Wolff will not be able to save his stay in the paddock as a future Liberty Media employee . His plan to replace Chase Carey, after the negotiations with the number 2 of Liberty Greg Maffei, would have been wrecked after a veto by Ferrari. The Maranello team would have asked Wolff at least three years to stop after a possible Mercedes stop and before acting as F1 boss, referring to the so-called 'gardending leave'.

Elsewhere, Lawrence Stroll is interested in acquiring the Aston Martin brand. Even if the Racing Point team is already in hand, Stroll would have enough resources to buy the Mercedes F1 business, also keeping Toto Wolff in the saddle. With the ultimate goal of renaming the team 'Aston Martin'. Thinking about what the Mercedes team was called before (Brawn GP, ​​Honda, BAR, Tyrrell), it makes you smile. And the engines? Mercedes would continue to supply only the engines in F1, avoiding direct exposure and 'gaining' certainly more than now. The fate of the Racing Point could depend on Stroll's portfolio: the possibilities would be a transformation into a satellite team (such as Alpha Tauri with Red Bull) or the sale.

Currently, however, Mercedes has not announced any plans to abandon the series, while Wolff and Stroll are still perfectly adherent to their current roles. The 2020 season could also lighten many ideas for the management of the German brand, possibly freeing the field from various rumors and gossip.
Pre ovoga se pojavila vest da je Hamilton pred produzenjem ugovora tako da ne znam kolko ovo ima smisla...
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Post Postao/la Cuky » 29 sij 2020, 12:53

Uprava Daimlera, Mercedesovih vlasnika, 12. veljače održava sastanak na kojem će, između ostaloga, odlučivati hoće li povući Mercedes iz F1 na kraju 2020. ili će potpisati novi ugovor sa FOM-om. Njihov aktualni ugovor ističe na kraju ove godine.

Ono što bi moglo biti otežavajuće po F1 momčad jest da Daimler traži načina kako smanjiti troškove jer su samo prošle godine bili na gubitku nekoliko milijardi funti te planiraju otpustiti oko 10.000 zaposlenika.

S druge strane, odjel motora smješten u Brixworthu bi trebao ostati i dalje u F1 nevezano o tome povlači li se tvornička momčad ili ne, najmanje do 2025.

https://www.racefans.net/2020/01/29/mer ... t-f1-2020/
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From Germany: the Daimler group meeting denied
According to the RTL broadcaster, the future of Mercedes in F1 would not be in question

From England - precisely as reported by Racefans.net in collaboration with Autocar - today the news came that the Daimler group would have a crucial meeting on the agenda for the future of Mercedes in F1 scheduled for Wednesday 12 February, two days before of the filming day in which the W11 will cover the first km in Silverstone in view of the first winter test session in Barcelona on the Montmelò circuit (from 19 to 21 February).

The German broadcaster RTL - which also holds the rights to broadcast the F1 Grand Prix in the clear in Germany - has however denied this indiscretion. According to what RTL collected through some sources close to the Mercedes team, there is no reason to doubt the commitment of the home of the three-pointed star in F1 even after 2020 and no meeting of the Daimler group will be held on February 12th. The contract between Mercedes and Liberty expires at the end of 2020 as well as that of all the other teams and the signing of the Pact of Concordia for 2021 has yet to be formalized.
Mercedes, Källenius' denial
The CEO of the Daimler group has sharply denied the existence of a date set for a meeting focused on the departure of the three-pointed star from F1

All in a few hours. After the indiscretion that came from England on a crucial meeting within the Daimler group , which was to decide the fate of Mercedes in Formula 1 on February 12th, the denial promptly arrived first from the German broadcaster RTL and then directly from the CEO Ola Källenius .

In the margins of the annual reception of the German car industry in Berlin, the number one of Daimler replied in a dry and peremptory way to those who asked him for comments on the news launched by RaceFans in collaboration with Autocar . "That's not true" , these were the only words of Källenius, who for now does not publicly question the future of one of the most successful teams in the history of world motoring, at the gates of one of the biggest technical revolutions scheduled in the 2021.
Opet prevarili narod (kao na zimskim testovima) :biggrin:
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Post Postao/la F1NAC » 04 vel 2020, 22:37

AMD ( donedavni Ferrarijev sponzor) i Mercedes potpisali ugovor na visegodisnju suradnju. Isto tako izgleda da Qualcomm vise nije na listi sponzora Mercedesa
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Post Postao/la popeye » 05 vel 2020, 08:30

hoce da izadju a skupljaju sponzore... :^o
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Post Postao/la zonelsk » 05 vel 2020, 21:25

Oni nikad nisu rekli da odlaze ili prijetili odlaskom jer im nesto ne stima...
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hoce da izadju a skupljaju sponzore... :^o
Pa što da skupljaju sponzore? Odluka još nije donesena, a do tada se ide kao da se ostaje. Ili treba sve obustaviti dok se čeka odluča, pa kad se odluči da se ipak ostaje biti totalno nespreman? Ako je nešto sigurno kod ove Mercedesove ekipe je da nikada ništa ne prepuštaju slučaju i da neće biti nespremni.

I samo za primjer: Toyota je imala bolid u voznom stanju, spreman, za 2010. prije nego su glavešine odlučili da se to više ne isplati i da odlaze van. Uostalom, prvih nekoliko sezona je Pirelli upravo taj Toyotin bolid koristio za testiranje svojih guma.

Ili Honda koja je razvijala dva različita bolida za 2009., opredijelila se za jedan i kad je već bio u poodmakloj pripremi odlučili se, oko Božića 2008. da im se više ne isplati i otišli van. I toliko ih nije bilo briga za ostanak da su prodali ekipu za 1 funtu. Ostalo je povijest.
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Post Postao/la zonelsk » 05 vel 2020, 21:41

Ovo za Hondu nije bilo bas tako, ali ok poanta je na mjestu.
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Post Postao/la Vuksa_KC » 05 vel 2020, 22:19

Mercedes može sad tu lako spinove mutiti s forama da će ostati u Formuli 1...kao dobavljač motora, a momčad...pa to je ista momčad, samo će se sada zvati...
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Oni nikad nisu rekli da odlaze ili prijetili odlaskom jer im nesto ne stima...
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Cuky je napisao/la:
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hoce da izadju a skupljaju sponzore... :^o
Pa što da skupljaju sponzore? Odluka još nije donesena, a do tada se ide kao da se ostaje. Ili treba sve obustaviti dok se čeka odluča, pa kad se odluči da se ipak ostaje biti totalno nespreman? Ako je nešto sigurno kod ove Mercedesove ekipe je da nikada ništa ne prepuštaju slučaju i da neće biti nespremni.

I samo za primjer: Toyota je imala bolid u voznom stanju, spreman, za 2010. prije nego su glavešine odlučili da se to više ne isplati i da odlaze van. Uostalom, prvih nekoliko sezona je Pirelli upravo taj Toyotin bolid koristio za testiranje svojih guma.

Ili Honda koja je razvijala dva različita bolida za 2009., opredijelila se za jedan i kad je već bio u poodmakloj pripremi odlučili se, oko Božića 2008. da im se više ne isplati i otišli van. I toliko ih nije bilo briga za ostanak da su prodali ekipu za 1 funtu. Ostalo je povijest.
Mercedes: "We will definitely be there in 2021"
Even Toto Wolff wanted to clear the field of any misunderstanding: the Silver Arrows will continue their commitment in the top category of motoring


The date of the 'decisive' meeting for the permanence of Mercedes in F1 at the end of the 2020 season had been identified for 12 February. The managing director of the Stuttgart-based company, Ola Kallenius, had sharply denied the existence of the meeting between the top of the group, ensuring in the following days the intention to continue in the category.

The team's intention was also clarified by team principal Toto Wolff, during an interview granted to the German Auto Motor und Sport : “ Mercedes will certainly continue in 2021 , we want to stay. For us, being in Formula 1 makes sense . " But the agreement with Liberty Media has not yet been defined: “ The conditions must be the right ones and F1 must work. We want to have a Covenant of Concordia with which we can live. And this does not mean that we want to get more and more, but we want a well balanced contract, both for us and for the smaller teams. All teams must make profits . "

Wolff also highlighted that he liked his duties at Mercedes: “ I like my role. The company gave me ample freedom to lead the team. We are growing as a team and have almost tripled in number in the past seven years. We have become a real company and our work has turned into a real management activity . "
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Post Postao/la zonelsk » 06 vel 2020, 23:47

popeye je napisao/la:
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zonelsk je napisao/la:
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Oni nikad nisu rekli da odlaze ili prijetili odlaskom jer im nesto ne stima...
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MERCEDES JOINS FERRARI WITH THREATS TO LEAVE F1 OVER LIBERTY MEDIA'S DIRECTION
Both manufacturer teams disagree with the proposed engine rules and budget caps

https://autoweek.com/article/formula-on ... -direction
Pa ako bolje procitas Wolffove rijeci vidis da nije bila prijetnja odaskom nego kolicina angažmana i u kojoj kategoriji ce nastupati. I nije prijetio odlaskom nego se samo zapitao kamo sve vodi, i da ne vide jasan put a samim time imaju problem pravdati ogromna ulaganja.

Mozda grijesim, ali Merceds nije nigdje rekoa da ih nakon 2020 nema u F1, nego su samo razmatrali koliko novaca su spremni ulupati da i dalje budu tu di jesu.
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Post Postao/la popeye » 07 vel 2020, 00:56

ok sad kad znamo da ce ostati lako se praviti pametan. sad smo svi znali da ce ostati...

a sto se tice onog prvog, pa evo ti prvi odgovor kako si ga mogo prevideti?
So when asked if Mercedes could join Ferrari in its F1 quit threat, Wolff didn’t back down.

"Such a scenario is quite conceivable," he said.
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ok sad kad znamo da ce ostati lako se praviti pametan. sad smo svi znali da ce ostati...

a sto se tice onog prvog, pa evo ti prvi odgovor kako si ga mogo prevideti?
So when asked if Mercedes could join Ferrari in its F1 quit threat, Wolff didn’t back down.

"Such a scenario is quite conceivable," he said.
"Takav je scenarij sasvim zamisliv" - ovo je doslovan prijevod.
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Post Postao/la Cuky » 10 vel 2020, 13:29

Mercedes je na prošlogodišnjem bolidu predstavio novu livreju za 2020. sa novim sponzorom (INEOS)
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