Formula 1 team - Mercedes-AMG Petronas Formula One Team [F1 W13]
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Što nije daleko od istine - buduci da su trebali imati 1-2 u q3 i buduci da je 1 bolid uspio zadrzati 2 mercedesa iza sebe. Da Vettel nije Vettel i da nisu (im) sjebali q3 bili bi 1-2 u utrci.
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Uopste je nebitno ko sada ima najjaci motor (ja i dalje stojim iza onog da je Ferari dizajniro bolid sa manje DF kako bi na ovakvim stazama profitirali), eto i Reno se hvalio da imaju 1000 KS i pogledajte sta su im odgovorili Hamilton i Max osim sto su im se smejali. Dakle najbitniji je "paket" odnosno sasija+motor a tu je Mecka nenadjebiva. Ko je drugi ja mislim da je to RB a to ce se vrlo brzo pokazati na trkama koje slede a koje nisu "flat" (kao Monca i Spa).
A sta ce biti dogodine mene i dalje kopka ona misao Hornera kad je jos 2018 reko da niko nece pobediti Mercedes do promene pravila (2021). To je bilo objektivno misljenje i pre svih njihovih (narocito Markovih) i japancevih i na kraju krajeva mojih zelja.
A sta ce biti dogodine mene i dalje kopka ona misao Hornera kad je jos 2018 reko da niko nece pobediti Mercedes do promene pravila (2021). To je bilo objektivno misljenje i pre svih njihovih (narocito Markovih) i japancevih i na kraju krajeva mojih zelja.
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Fino si jučer odradili 4 dužine utrka na gumama za 2020.
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Nisu jedini... svi testiraju već cijele sezone.
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Zanimljivo kako su oni zadnji testirali.
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Zasto?
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Misliš da su bile potpuno iste gume 2.4. i 13.9.?
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svi podaci sa testiranja se dijele sa svim ekipama
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Ne? Mislim da su bile sličnije onome sto ce biti.
A jel ti mislis da ce Ferrari i RB dominirati kisne gume?
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Ne vjerujem niti Mercedesu niti Pirelliju, još pogotovo kada zajedno surađuju.
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Nije Leclerc bio jedini raspižđen jučer nakon trke.
Lewis je navodno bio 'furious' zbog strategije, i Toto ga je morao smirivati. Samo, očito iskustvo koje ima u usporedbi s Leclercom utječe na to da se to prema vani nije toliko vidlo, već je sve bilo ''we win and lose together''.
Ljutnja je, navodno, bila izazvana time da je on inzistirao i na brifingu nakon kvalifikacija da se ide na undercut, čak i ako znači upadanje u gužvu, jer je rekao ako će imat brzinu da će prestić sve, i onda u utrci je na team radio stalno zvao da pokušaju nešto na šta su mu samo odgovarali da čeka i čeka...
Lewis je navodno bio 'furious' zbog strategije, i Toto ga je morao smirivati. Samo, očito iskustvo koje ima u usporedbi s Leclercom utječe na to da se to prema vani nije toliko vidlo, već je sve bilo ''we win and lose together''.
Ljutnja je, navodno, bila izazvana time da je on inzistirao i na brifingu nakon kvalifikacija da se ide na undercut, čak i ako znači upadanje u gužvu, jer je rekao ako će imat brzinu da će prestić sve, i onda u utrci je na team radio stalno zvao da pokušaju nešto na šta su mu samo odgovarali da čeka i čeka...
Nobody exists on purpose. Nobody belongs anywhere. Everybody's gonna die. Come watch TV.
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Ima i pravo.
Mogao je doći do pobjede, a mogao je i završiti 6.
Mogao je doći do pobjede, a mogao je i završiti 6.
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Koji luzeri. Imaju 1-2 u prvenstvu i onda dođe James i veli Bottasu da drži kušin Hamiltonu...
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Za razliku od trenutnog Ferrarija. Oni znaju kako osvojiti prvenstvo - odnosno vise njih za redom
Dosta zaboravljate tu činjenicu kad stalno se lovite njihovih poteza ili recenica.
Dosta zaboravljate tu činjenicu kad stalno se lovite njihovih poteza ili recenica.
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u Mercedesu su, kaže Wolff, ljuti sami na sebe jer su propustili očekivati da će Ferrari u Singapuru, kako oni vjeruju, podesiti bolid skroz misleći na kvalifilacije znajući da u utrci ako imaju poziciju mogu diktirati tempo i tako sačuvati gume od raspadanja zbog setupa orijentiranog na 1 brzi krug
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nisu predvidjeli SC-ove u singapuru
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pa i nije tako.....ferarijevi izlazni krugovi su bili puno brži od Mercedesovi. Znači imali su i trkačkog tempa
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pa izlaznu krug je jedan brzi krug...
A donekle ima i smisla to: Ferrari je imao brzine u kvalifikacijama što znači da su uspjeli gume dovesti u radnu temperaturu i tamo ih zadržati (a to im ove godine nije išlo za rukom). Također, na startu su uspjeli dobro krenuti, svaki restart poslije SC-a su išli bolje nego ostali, a i izlazni krug iz boksa je bio jači. No to isto znači da se gume brže unište na dulje staze, ali kad su naprijed na stazi poput ove onda mogu voziti tempom koji im omogućava da ih sačuvaju. Kao npr. Mercedes u Monaku 2013.
A donekle ima i smisla to: Ferrari je imao brzine u kvalifikacijama što znači da su uspjeli gume dovesti u radnu temperaturu i tamo ih zadržati (a to im ove godine nije išlo za rukom). Također, na startu su uspjeli dobro krenuti, svaki restart poslije SC-a su išli bolje nego ostali, a i izlazni krug iz boksa je bio jači. No to isto znači da se gume brže unište na dulje staze, ali kad su naprijed na stazi poput ove onda mogu voziti tempom koji im omogućava da ih sačuvaju. Kao npr. Mercedes u Monaku 2013.
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Valjda ovo vazi i za Red BulWolff objasnio zbog čega je Ferrari brži: Mi već radimo na bolidu za 2020.
Šef Mercedesa izjavio je da je njegov tim prebacio fokus na narednu sezonu.
Vozači Mercedesa u skorije vreme nisu dobili neku vrstu ozbiljnijeg unapređenja dok je sa druge strane Ferrari znatnno unapredio svoj paket.
“Ferrari je uspeo da napravi korak napred, dok mi neko vreme nismo imali nove delove. Možda su nam neke stvari i promakle, ali neke rezultate smo ispustili zbog strategije.” kazao je Toto Wolff.
On je kazao da je Mercedes već prebacio fokus na narednu sezonu, kako bi narednu godinu dočekali što spremniji.
“To je bio plan, jer mi želimo da sve resurse iskoristimo na najbolji način.”
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Zanimljivo... a ja sad čitam članak na engleskom... u njemu piše kako Ferrari donosi brojne nadogradnje zadnjih utrka sa fokusom na razvoju za iduću sezonu te da Mercedes također u Japan donosi nadogradnje koje su isto osmišljene i proizvedene sa jednim okom na W11 za iduću sezonu.
To važi za svih. Svi već od početka ljeta dio ljudstva imaju usmjeren na bolidu za iduću sezonu. Ferrari je, ako se ne varam, zaposlio nove ljude koji su odmah gurnuti u vatru na razvoju za dogodine.popeye je napisao/la:Valjda ovo vazi i za Red Bul
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Mercedes remains - but only for the time being!
Formula 1 reporter Ralf Bach analyzes the statements of Mercedes CEO Ola Källenius to stay in Formula 1.
Am Thursday looked at the Formula 1 world to London. There, Daimler CEO Ola Källenius publicly stepped on the occasion of the Capital Markets Day in order to explain to investors, shareholders and employees how he intends to bring the financially troubled automobile group back on track in the future due to the diesel scandal.
Grundtenor: The Swede wants to save the staff by 2022 around 1.4 billion euros. Källenius "currently" but not at an exit from the Formula 1, which have called for parts of the shareholders and the workforce because of the huge austerity measures.
The Swede says: "We have won the World Cup six times in a row, which is unique and has more than paid off in marketing." Calculations have shown that the marketing of Formula 1 will result in a marketing value of around a billion a very worthwhile investment.
Alone: Källenius is clever. Currently, he does not think about it. Which means : In 2020, Mercedes is certainly there. With own team and as engine manufacturer. However, he continues to leave it open as to how the Group's marketing strategy will affect Formula One.
Reason: The so-called Concorde Agreement expires at the end of 2020, obliging teams like Mercedes to start next year. An exit would result in a penalty in the three-digit million range. Källenius does not want to and can not afford that at the moment.
Whether Mercedes the new Concorde Agreement, which is valid from 2021 and a participation with own team for another five years signed, signs, is still unclear.
How To Cars MOTORSPORT learned from a reliable source: Should find a potential buyer, the team is for sale. In insider circles next to Russian chemicals mogul Nikita Mazepin and the US billionaire Roger Penske (82) as a candidate. Penske has just bought the rights to the Indycar series and the Indianapolis course. His fortune is estimated at 1.6 billion dollars, his company has great motorsport tradition.
Several times he won with his own racing team, the 500 miles of Indianapolis, 1994 with Mercedes engine. Penske is considered a confidant of the Mercedes management team. In 1995, for example, he brokered the involvement of Daimler in McLaren .
The American, whose son Jay (40) owns the Dragon team in Formula E , now wants to expand further in motorsport.
However: With the efficient hybrid engines that fit into the future visions addressed by Källenius, Mercedes should definitely stay in the premier class. This fits, as ABMS learned: Mercedes has since 2021 alongside McLaren, Force India and Williams also offered Red Bull engines . With their own team or the future Penske team, that would be five teams that Mercedes would then have to supply.
In the Red Bull headquarters, one is therefore sure: Mercedes in the future rely entirely on engines. The explanations of Källenius would still have persisted, because the Mercedes engine can be marketed as well in the worldwide transmissions as the team.
Formula 1 reporter Ralf Bach analyzes the statements of Mercedes CEO Ola Källenius to stay in Formula 1.
Am Thursday looked at the Formula 1 world to London. There, Daimler CEO Ola Källenius publicly stepped on the occasion of the Capital Markets Day in order to explain to investors, shareholders and employees how he intends to bring the financially troubled automobile group back on track in the future due to the diesel scandal.
Grundtenor: The Swede wants to save the staff by 2022 around 1.4 billion euros. Källenius "currently" but not at an exit from the Formula 1, which have called for parts of the shareholders and the workforce because of the huge austerity measures.
The Swede says: "We have won the World Cup six times in a row, which is unique and has more than paid off in marketing." Calculations have shown that the marketing of Formula 1 will result in a marketing value of around a billion a very worthwhile investment.
Alone: Källenius is clever. Currently, he does not think about it. Which means : In 2020, Mercedes is certainly there. With own team and as engine manufacturer. However, he continues to leave it open as to how the Group's marketing strategy will affect Formula One.
Reason: The so-called Concorde Agreement expires at the end of 2020, obliging teams like Mercedes to start next year. An exit would result in a penalty in the three-digit million range. Källenius does not want to and can not afford that at the moment.
Whether Mercedes the new Concorde Agreement, which is valid from 2021 and a participation with own team for another five years signed, signs, is still unclear.
How To Cars MOTORSPORT learned from a reliable source: Should find a potential buyer, the team is for sale. In insider circles next to Russian chemicals mogul Nikita Mazepin and the US billionaire Roger Penske (82) as a candidate. Penske has just bought the rights to the Indycar series and the Indianapolis course. His fortune is estimated at 1.6 billion dollars, his company has great motorsport tradition.
Several times he won with his own racing team, the 500 miles of Indianapolis, 1994 with Mercedes engine. Penske is considered a confidant of the Mercedes management team. In 1995, for example, he brokered the involvement of Daimler in McLaren .
The American, whose son Jay (40) owns the Dragon team in Formula E , now wants to expand further in motorsport.
However: With the efficient hybrid engines that fit into the future visions addressed by Källenius, Mercedes should definitely stay in the premier class. This fits, as ABMS learned: Mercedes has since 2021 alongside McLaren, Force India and Williams also offered Red Bull engines . With their own team or the future Penske team, that would be five teams that Mercedes would then have to supply.
In the Red Bull headquarters, one is therefore sure: Mercedes in the future rely entirely on engines. The explanations of Källenius would still have persisted, because the Mercedes engine can be marketed as well in the worldwide transmissions as the team.
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Buahaha. Bottasu crkao motor zbog pretjera e konzumacije ulja
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Evo Hamo danas malo osjetio čari dok treba dati više nego što bolid pruža, tj. filling the gap, i nije se baš proslavio.
Jest da se sad opustio opravdano, ali i njega i Vettela danas rookiei i mladunci oprali.
Druge godine im neće biti ništa drukčije.
Jest da se sad opustio opravdano, ali i njega i Vettela danas rookiei i mladunci oprali.
Druge godine im neće biti ništa drukčije.