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Alonso Fernando je napisao/la:Ja sam toliki ovisnik da cu raditi obratno,snimati tekmu.
Ma razmišljao sam i o tome,ali bi rezultat nogometa vjerovatno brzo saznao zbog okoline,i njihovih reakcija jer nogomet će gotovo svi pratiti,dok f1 malo ko prati(bar od ljudi koje ja poznajem gotovo niko ne prati f1)
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Dva sata mi ne znači puno,volim sačekati pa guštati i u jednom i u drugom nego istovremeno pa bi to bilo ni tamo ni vamo ;)

Što se tiče same utrke,očekujem super utrku jer ovo je iza Spa najbolja staza i ovdje nema šanse da bude nezanimljiva utrka.Prognoziram pobjedu Schumachera,Hamilton drugi,Rosberg treći :biggrin:
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Mislim da nas ovi iz F1 namjerno hebeju. Ako se dobro sjećam onda smo prije 4 godine utakmicu protiv Austrije igrali u 6h, a trka je bila u 7, sad pak igramo u 9, a trka je u 8!!! WTF?! F1 sigurno gledam,a naše usput pratim prvo poluvrijeme.
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ma znam...ja ću gledat F1, a nogomet onako letimično...ipak je F1 prioritet :D

a što se prognoze tiče...
Postolje: Alonso, Hamilton, Schumacher (ne nužno tim redom), Massa u bodovima, RB.ovi izvan top 5, odustajanja Buttona i Rosberga, dupli bodovi za Sauber, HRT ispred Marussije
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Porgnozira se kiša, al ipak ne izgleda za utrku :D
Montreal looks set for another wet weekend during the Canadian Grand Prix, although forecasts predict the race to be dry. Last year's race saw torrential rain which caused the race to be red flagged for two hours.

Conditions for Friday practice will be similar according to Canadian News CTV, with Thunderstorms expected around 2pm.

Saturday is likely to see lighter rain which is forecast for the afternoon's Qualifying session. Showers however are not predicted on race day, which is expected to be hot and humid with temperatures as high as 30°C.
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Re: VN Kanade, Circuit Gilles Villeneuve, 8.-10.6.2012.

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Canadian Grand Prix technical feature

Mots-clés : Gilles-Villeneuve (CA) - Formule 1

The Formula 1 World Championship departs from its European heartland for the first of two North American races in 2012.

Renault Sport F1 arrives in Canada off the back of three successive Formula 1 victories, the most recent being the jewel in the crown as Red Bull Racing’s Mark Webber blasted to his second win on the streets of Monaco.

His engine engineer, David Mart, took time out to explain the very individual characteristics of the Montreal weekend. Cooling, fuel consumption and pedal maps are the biggest points, plus monitoring the weather, which has become so changeable over recent years :

“In Montreal you can get nice sunny days in qualifying and rain arriving on Sunday, or rain on Friday and dry on Sunday. In many ways that is worse because trying to figure out dry fuel consumption when you’ve only had wet running on Friday is very tough.” he explains.

“In the rain the cars are running more slowly and using less fuel. In addition there is obviously more moisture in the air, so less oxygen is ingested into the engine and the fuel consumption is further reduced. One thing you can do going from a sunny Friday to a wet Sunday is reduce fuel levels, dependant on what your information is on rainfall.

“It is all about assessing risk, but if you are confident in your weather predictions then you could put less fuel in the car than you would need to finish a dry race. However running out of fuel is a potential risk ; if the conditions change again and the track dries out, you could have too little fuel on board. Therefore, you need to estimate the highest fuel consumption based on the dry. It is all about confidence ; if we are certain on wet conditions then you can ‘short fuel’ ; but you have to be certain, especially you have to fuel the car 45 minutes before the race starts !”

Another area that can be affected by wet conditions is the cooling configuration. “If the FIA declares the track wet for the race but it was dry for the qualifying, we can amend the cooling configuration of the car. When it rains, the engine generates much less energy to dissipate as the revs are much lower with lower average throttle times as the cars tend to circulate a bit slower. This all connected to the lower fuel consumption rate : with less energy going through the engine, there is less energy to dissipate.

“If you maintain dry running levels of cooling, it’s actually too severe for the engine and you will cool it too much – you need to bear in mind that we heat the engine up to 70 or 80°C water temperature to be able to fire up safely. In the wet the operating temperatures are much lower.” A further effect of the rain is on the handling of the car, and engine settings can also help in this regard. “When it is wet, the driver needs a bit of help coming out of the corners to control wheelspin. The use of pedal maps is critical so that the amount of torque is correct in those conditions. In the wet the map will be far more progressive in terms of application of power as you don’t want a sudden burst of torque or you’ll get wheelspin.”

One individual quirk of the Canadian Grand Prix is the track itself. The Circuit Gilles Villeneuve is composed of many different types of asphalt as different sections have been resurfaced at different times over the years. This, in itself, can cause set-up issues.

“It always makes it tricky when you have changing track conditions on one lap. You can’t always cater for that and so you have to find a compromise. It comes down to the relationship between engine and pedals and how much torque the driver needs. You’ll spend Friday determining how you are going to set that up.”

So a track whose surface changes sector by sector, and weather which can shift at any moment : the Canadian Grand Prix weekend therefore seems to be something of a compromise, particularly as the car enters parc fermé conditions after qualifying.

“If the weather conditions remain stable, it is far easier to find that sweet spot and for the drivers to find a point with the engine where they are happy. But if, as has happened over the last few years, the weather decides to play a game with us, then it is all about making the best of what you’ve got.”

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Može jedan mali, nevezani kviz: čiji će ove godine biti zid prvaka? :).
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zid prvaka ove godine: Karthikeyan, Grosjean, Vergne. Uzimam si mogućnost jednog promašaja :D
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zid prvaka ove godine: vettel, webber, massa :)
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Vidim da je netko gledao zadnju epizodu 2. sezone Igre prijestolja.

On topic: Očekujem jak McLaren, prvenstveno Hamiltona. Za Buttona ne znam što od njega očekivati. Očito mu ne paše da je formalno prvi vozač za razliku od prošlih godina kada je živio na Hamiltonovim greškama. Tako da stavljam lovu na Hamiltona i Kimija. Jedva čekam utrku. Tekmu tako i onako ne bi gledao jer jednostavno je to prestresno za mene.
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Massa bude kresnuo zid . Konacno da se i njemu poklopi :biggrin: . Onda svi znamo što slijedi :)
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Alonso-champ je napisao/la:ova mi je najdraza,jedva je cekam,jos za moj rodjendan i jos da Alonso pobjedi ma niko sretniji ;)
Eh, da Fernando Alonso, pobijedi,......... kamo sreće. Nitko sretniji od nas. :D
I ja kad kažem, da mi je ovo najdraža staza, onda se sjetim, Spa, pa Suzuke i sličnih. I ona u Turskoj mi je OK. Tako da ja, osobno, nikada ne mogu reći, koja mi je najdraža, ali ova staza u Montrealu, je vrh vrhova, spada u krug ovih koje najviše preferiram.
Ništa mi neće, ovaj dan pokvarit'.......... jer želim ( hoću ) med i mlijeko. I točka. :biggrin:
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Ha. Zid prvaka je zaj.. baš po tome što ga znaju pogoditi oni za koje ne bi rekli da će ga pogoditi. Ja bi se baš kladio na... (ne smijem ni spominjat! :) )
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F1NAC je napisao/la:valjda necemo opet do polnoci bit budni :biggrin:
Ak niš drugo, pogledamo tekmu pa onda u miru nastavak utrke :D

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kakvo je vrijeme trenutno
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Oblacno je, ali suho, evo upravo pocinje 1. trening, sportklub prenosi :)
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na Sky-u kažu da bi kiša trebala pasti između FP1 i FP2 ili na početku FP2
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Pratite ovaj twitter feed team radio kanala gdje imaveliko tehničkih detaila u komunikaciji između vozača i timova @F1PitRadio ;)


Vergne to run 57% Brake Balance to start

Heikki to use 100% power discharge KERS map

Massa: flow-vis on rear wing and front right brake duct inlet

Hulkenberg: Flow-viz on top and bottom surfaces of rear wing mainplane

MSC asked to check his drink pump and KERS discharge for proper operation

Vergne: told rain is to the north of track. If rain comes, will wait until end of session to make next run

Pic complains of light steering feel. Engineer says data looks good, nothing wrong hydraulically. May be due to new castor geometry

Perez told front tires are cold, but "just keep going"

Heikki to do 6 flying laps, to use 50% KERS at beginning of laps to save for end of laps. Last 3 laps switch off KERS, and no DRS

Meteo France says, "Rain close to circuit, but NOT moving towards us"

Di Resta told, "Slippery surface reported at final chicane"

Front toe settings being adjusted for Grosjean

Ricciardo reports medium speed corner entry understeer, and slight brake locking on lowspeed corner entry

Di Resta told to, "Cool the engine as much as possible"

Vettel: team checking total final chassis weight with running tires on corner weight scales

Front ride height adjustment for Timo

Narain reports front dampers too stiff, not able to hit braking points, front locking into T10, harsh ride over kerbs

RIC to test: "Significantly" changed rear geometry for roll resistance, engine braking, brake balance, and DRS in an 8 flying lap outing

Vergne reports more understeer on entry to chicane and in midcorner, "car is moving massively"

Narain reports front dampers too stiff, not able to hit braking points, front locking into T10, harsh ride over kerbs

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Koji zološki park: lisice, vjeverice, dabrovi...
A Vettel će biti na kraju FP1 pod istragom jer je prestigao Sennu ali je i uzeo shortcut u posljednjem zavoju...Možda mu zabrane jutanju kavu. :roll:
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ako ustanove da je kriv dobit će opomenu, kao Schumacher u Španjolskoj. Ako ponovi to isto tokom vikenda ili napravi nešto drugo onda će dobiti kaznu (novčanu, nekoliko mjesta na gridu ili nešto treće)

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Lotusi za sada relativno loši. Ostalo, dosta općenito.
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hh svuda ih je :)

jos u fp1 sam pomislio da bi alonso mogao zahvatit travicu u tom zavoju i eto ga :)

vettel ista stvar, samo sto je pokazao kako ga uvijek "sreca" prati i kako je "sretno" smirio situaciju..
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Pa sta je sa Sennom danas??slab totalno,najvise izletanja i na kraju napravio totalku...
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arma, u 2. pokušaju i Nando je lijepo smirio :D
A na istom mjestu je i Hamilton išao van i Senna 50+ puta
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