Ako se ne varam, Lotus i Grosjean se neće žaliti na kaznuKing iCool je napisao/la:Ali Lotus može uložiti žalbu na tu odluku tako da ipak treba malo pričekati.
Romain Grosjean [#8]
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IZVORRomain Grosjean has accepted his one-race ban for causing the multi-car accident at the start of the Belgian Grand Prix, but says the punishment is hard to take.
The 26-year-old Frenchman was banned from participating in next weekend's Italian Grand Prix and fined €50,000 after the Spa stewards concluded he caused an avoidable crash at La Source.
"When you love racing this is very hard," said Grosjean. "I accept my mistake."
Grosjean maintained he did not intend to squeeze Lewis Hamilton's McLaren towards the pitwall on the inside, prior to the contact that caused them both to collide with Fernando Alonso's Ferrari and both Saubers.
"We know that La Source is a very tough corner. It was a bit of a crazy start as well with [Pastor] Maldonado leaving [the grid early] and the Sauber [Kobayashi] smoking a lot," said Grosjean.
"I did a mistake and I misjudged the gap with Lewis. I was sure I was in front of him. So a small mistake made a big incident.
"I didn't change my line, I went from left to right. I was not really wanting to put anyone in the wall - I'm not here to stop the race in the first corner. I'm very, very sorry and I'm glad that nobody is hurt.
"But I have to say it is a very, very hard decision to hear."
Grosjean, who has been involved in five early-race incidents this year, said he was more angry with himself than with the penalty, but added that the accidents were not all caused by over-aggression.
"I did too many," he said. "If there is more than one then that is too many, I agree. But as I say it is not always the same. It's not over-aggressive by braking 200 metres too late, it's just most of the time misjudgement of the space I have in front or the space I have on the side.
"It's true that we don't see much in the mirrors and stuff like that and it goes very quick at the start.
"I was to be honest 100 per cent sure I was in front of Lewis but I was not so I need to rethink about my view of the car.
"I am the most angry at myself to have misjudged the gap with Lewis's car."
Grosjean said that his focus now was on analysing what led to the ban and to ensure that the rest of the season continues without error, adding that he hoped it would not affect his chances of keeping his drive with Lotus in 2012.
"It is too much. I know that. Some are not my fault, but yeah I will analyse that and I will try to not repeat it in the seven last races," he said.
"For sure I don't want to do any more [crashes] by the end of the season. So I will work, I will analyse as much as I can to try and avoid those. Some were misfortune, some were my mistake but now it is time to finish that."

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Re: Romain Grosjean
Vise sam vilio da su ga suspendovali do kraja sezone.Bar nikoga nece ugrozavati.

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Re: Romain Grosjean
Zar nije malo previše da mu se zbog toga zabrani nastup u Monzi?

Pa čovjek kaže - osjećaj. Ako je osjećaj, onda je osjećaj. Na temelju osjećaja

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Re: Romain Grosjean
ajd kazna je malo grublja al valjda će se sad on i slični njemu malo zapitat...kad smo već kod toga tko je zadnji dobio zabranu nastupa na trci ako ne računamo ide-a koji je izgubio licencu 

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Re: Romain Grosjean
neznam tko je zabranu,...znam da je pred koju godinu neka od momčadi mijenjala svog vozača kako on nebi morao odraditi kaznu od 10 mjesta na gridu, samo neznam koja točno
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Re: Romain Grosjean
Ja se sjećam od timova da je Renault dobio zabranu nastupa, mislim u Mađarskoj

Pa čovjek kaže - osjećaj. Ako je osjećaj, onda je osjećaj. Na temelju osjećaja

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Re: Romain Grosjean
zadnji koji se sjećam da je diskvalificiran bio je BAR 2005 neakon varanja u San Marinu, pa nisu bili na slijedeće dvije utrke. Ali za vozača se ne sjećam
“Four wheels move the body, Two wheels move the soul.”


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Re: Romain Grosjean
zadnji vozač je bio Eddie Irvine -1994 godina. Brazil vozio je za Jordan. Žalili su se na odluku a FIA im je nakon toga oderala 3 utrke kazne umjesto prijašnje jedne...možda se i zato neće žaliti u Lotusu...
EDIT: te godine je i Schumy bio kažnjen ali ne zbog sudara već nepoštivanja crne zastave ili nešto slično...ne da mi se kopati po internetu kada i gdje...
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Re: Romain Grosjean
BarikeloCuky je napisao/la:zadnji koji se sjećam da je diskvalificiran bio je BAR 2005 neakon varanja u San Marinu, pa nisu bili na slijedeće dvije utrke. Ali za vozača se ne sjećam

Alonsista hasta la muerte..
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Re: Romain Grosjean
Ne smo on nego cijela momčad. Nešto su muljali sa spremnicima goriva u Imoli onda ako se dobro sjećam.Alonso-champ je napisao/la:BarikeloCuky je napisao/la:zadnji koji se sjećam da je diskvalificiran bio je BAR 2005 neakon varanja u San Marinu, pa nisu bili na slijedeće dvije utrke. Ali za vozača se ne sjećam
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Re: Romain Grosjean
ismir je napisao/la:Nije F1 za Francuze. Za njih su kolica.
ismire, dragi: rene arnoux, patrick depailler, jacques laffite, alain prost
govore li ti išta ta imena ?

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Re: Romain Grosjean
Znam buraz ali ovaj je Alonsa omeo, i zato neka vozi troku.zizi je napisao/la:ismir je napisao/la:Nije F1 za Francuze. Za njih su kolica.
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Re: Romain Grosjean
Jedva sam čekao otvoriti temu Grosjean da vidim u koj mjeri će svi drvlje i kamenje na njega
Mislim da ne trebamo vrijeđat ni mrzit vozača, koliko god je bedast, napravio on jednu ili šest sličnih grešaka. I hami je imao sličnu fazu, ali se vidi da ga polako prolazi.
Meni se čini da svaki pravi vozač na startu gleda ispred, traži putanju a cijelo vrijeme perfirenim vidom prati retrovizore (drugačije ne bi mogao). I taj Grosjean kao da zaboravi na retrovizore, ne znam šta drugo.
Kako god, vjerujem da će mu ta blesava faza proći.

Mislim da ne trebamo vrijeđat ni mrzit vozača, koliko god je bedast, napravio on jednu ili šest sličnih grešaka. I hami je imao sličnu fazu, ali se vidi da ga polako prolazi.
Meni se čini da svaki pravi vozač na startu gleda ispred, traži putanju a cijelo vrijeme perfirenim vidom prati retrovizore (drugačije ne bi mogao). I taj Grosjean kao da zaboravi na retrovizore, ne znam šta drugo.
Kako god, vjerujem da će mu ta blesava faza proći.
Samo neka se trkaju.
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Re: Romain Grosjean
Tribali su ga kazniti i ranije. Tek sad kad je postao ogroman faktor u raspletu prvenstva onda ga kažnjavaju.
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Re: Romain Grosjean
Ko zna kolko su mu platili da skrši Alonsa i Hamiltona? U Lotusu - Renaultu su vec isprobali takav scenarij! 

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Sve je moguce, francuzi su podli i mutni...deda je napisao/la:Ko zna kolko su mu platili da skrši Alonsa i Hamiltona? U Lotusu - Renaultu su vec isprobali takav scenarij!

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Re: Romain Grosjean
Ismire, kakav to šovinizam na nacionalnoj osnovi opet slušam? Ili je to Admin samo malo zaspao? 

Samo neka se trkaju.
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Re: Romain Grosjean
je, u lotusu su sigurno danima uvježbavali i računalnom simulacijom proračunavali gdje točno treba zapet za hamiltona kako bi skršio apsolutno sve osim kimija. jedino im je bilo bed kaj još nisu mogli i lobovat kimija grosjeanovim bolidom i skršit buttona ispred
da, mora da je tako bilo
da, mora da je tako bilo
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Re: Romain Grosjean
pusti, vidiš da trola više nego ostoja
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Re: Romain Grosjean
Ok, ajd˙ sad fino nazad na temu, a ona glasi Roman Grosjean.
IZVOR KLIKLotus boss Eric Boullier hopes that Romain Grosjean learns lessons from the errors he has made this season, in the wake of his one-race ban.
Grosjean will be forced to miss the Italian Grand Prix after stewards deemed his involvement in a startline crash in Belgium was a "serious" breach of the regulations.
Although Boullier believes that the punishment was "severe", he reckons that Grosjean will go forward aware of what he needs to change to avoid future dramas.
Asked if he felt ultimately that the ban will help make Grosjean think about what he is doing, Boullier said: "I can only say yes, I hope so. Obviously the penalty is done to make people understand what they did.
"So the penalty can help him learn to do better in the future and I am happy about that."
Grosjean has been involved in seven early race incidents this year - in Australia, Malaysia, Spain, Monaco, Britain, Germany and Belgium.
Boullier says that he will have to sit down for talks with the Frenchman to try and help him avoid getting involved in further crashes.
"He was not responsible for seven incidents," he said. "He was involved in seven incidents, which is different.
"But obviously being in the wrong place is not good; and that means we have to keep working and talking, which is more talking I think, about the reason why he is in the wrong place."
He added: "I guess part of the problem is that he wants to do it. He is somebody who is a perfectionist and wants to do really well and deliver really well, and I think he needs to just understand.
"And he will learn even more if he does not put too much pressure on himself at the start of the race."
Boullier said he was undecided whether Grosjean would attend the Italian GP, even though he would not be driving.
"He is part of the team, he should be there and that is it," he said.
