Formula 1 team - Mercedes-AMG Petronas Formula One Team [F1 W13]

[F2004_the_best_ever]

Ja sam 100% siguran da sutra srebrnih kombinezona (dakle Mercedes i McLaren) neće biti na fotografiranju sa princem nakon utrke.

Ja sam siguran da će bar jedan Mercedes sutra biti na podijumu.

[dmarijon]

Ja sam 100% siguran da sutra srebrnih kombinezona (dakle Mercedes i McLaren) neće biti na fotografiranju sa princem nakon utrke.

Možeš pojasniti, zašto si toliko siguran?

[Cuky]

zato jer je Mercedes cijele ove sezone pokazao da nemaju dobar bolid na duge staze i siguran sam da to i dalje nisu riješili. Kako drukčije pojasniti da su u 5 utrka imali 3 polea, a najbolji rezultat im je 2 puta 3. mjesto.

[Kenny]

Ovo je možda zadnja ali i najbolja šansa Mercedesu da uzme pobjedu ove godine. Jedino u Monacu možes izvuc pobjedu a da imaš takvu kantu od bolida u trci

Ta kanta od bolida ima 72 boda...

To je po starom sistemu samo 25 bodova, znači ništa posebno

[dmarijon]

zato jer je Mercedes cijele ove sezone pokazao da nemaju dobar bolid na duge staze i siguran sam da to i dalje nisu riješili. Kako drukčije pojasniti da su u 5 utrka imali 3 polea, a najbolji rezultat im je 2 puta 3. mjesto.

Na pravim stazama: gdje se gume više troše i gdje se moglo lako preticati.

[Cuky]

ako netko nema gripa na izlasku iz zavoja onda je na pravcu lagana meta, nebitno vozi li se u Monaku ili u Abu Dhabiju...a mislim (a možda sam u krivu) da Mercedes ne može izvesti utrku sa jednim stopom u slučaju da ne bude duljeg perioda (ili više manjih) pod SC-om

[F2004_the_best_ever]

ako netko nema gripa na izlasku iz zavoja onda je na pravcu lagana meta, nebitno vozi li se u Monaku ili u Abu Dhabiju...a mislim (a možda sam u krivu) da Mercedes ne može izvesti utrku sa jednim stopom u slučaju da ne bude duljeg perioda (ili više manjih) pod SC-om

Mislim da nisi u pravu ali sutra posle utrke ćemo da vidimo ko je bio u pravu.

[dmarijon]

Ja mislim da je velika šansa da se Merc-i sutra prestignu, ali ne na stazi. Kroz boksove.

[vidc]

u monte carlu trebaš biti odvratno sporiji da te netko pretekne,pogotovo u borbi za podijum. druga stvar je kad npr. ferrari starta zadnji pa pretekne marussia-u ili caterham-a, ali za podijum će to biti jako teško. treba se znati dobro pogurat i imat puno povjerenja u ovog ispred da će ti ostavit dovoljno prostora

[F2004_the_best_ever]

Andrew Benson ‏@andrewbensonf1
Mercedes did 3-day tyre test between the Spanish and Monaco Grands Prix. Testing is banned. Seems there is a document that allows tyre tests

Edit:
Link

[gringo73]

Andrew Benson ‏@andrewbensonf1
Mercedes did 3-day tyre test between the Spanish and Monaco Grands Prix. Testing is banned. Seems there is a document that allows tyre tests

Edit:
Link

Navodno 1000km je tu odrađeno. Nešto opširniji tekst - LINK.

"Although in-season testing is banned, it is understood that Mercedes was requested by Pirelli to help work through the issues that the Italian tyre manufacturer has experienced in the last few races.
According to sources at Mercedes, the test was allowed because Pirelli can call upon one outfit for a private test to help it with products if circumstances dictate."

[Toon]

Malo opširnije o istom:
LINK
...cirkus, cirkus, cirkus...glupo, sramotno, bezveze, idiotski...od svih rade budale posebno navijača i ljubitelja ovoga što više ne znam ni kako da nazovem.

[Alonso-champ]

Lolčina,@Toon slazem se sa tobom u potpunosti...

[F1NAC]

hahaha ma ne pomogne im ni suradnja s Pirellijem. koji baksuzi

[Ćale od Lewisa]

neznam dali je bilo riječi o Mercedesovom FRIC ovjesu, pa evo link

[Kenny]

F1nac nemora im sada pomoć, koliko sam ja razumio da su testirali gume koje dolaze u Canadu, a tamo mogu imat veliku prednost. Zar nisu iz Pirellija rekli da gume ove sezone neće mjenjat?
Nakon ovoga bi morali letit ljudi iz FIAe, za testiranje imaju Renault iz 2010, ili neka pozovu sve timove na testiranje, a ne samo jedan jer ovo može Mercedesu da donese veliku prednost

[gringo73]

U vezi Mercedesa i Pirrelija: "It is believed that there was a similar test with Ferrari after Bahrain. There will be other tests as well with other teams as the season progresses but it seems that Red Bull is making a fuss because it was not doing the testing…"

[F1NAC]

F1nac nemora im sada pomoć, koliko sam ja razumio da su testirali gume koje dolaze u Canadu, a tamo mogu imat veliku prednost. Zar nisu iz Pirellija rekli da gume ove sezone neće mjenjat?
Nakon ovoga bi morali letit ljudi iz FIAe, za testiranje imaju Renault iz 2010, ili neka pozovu sve timove na testiranje, a ne samo jedan jer ovo može Mercedesu da donese veliku prednost

navodno ostaju gume iste u nakon kanade ?

[Kenny]

U vezi Mercedesa i Pirrelija: "It is believed that there was a similar test with Ferrari after Bahrain. There will be other tests as well with other teams as the season progresses but it seems that Red Bull is making a fuss because it was not doing the testing…"

Znači neki će možda imat jednako iskustva na zadnjoj utrci kao Ferrari i Mercedes sa gumama

F1NAC:

The tyres used at the test were development designs for next season, as well as a new tyre Pirelli wants to introduce at next month's Canadian Grand Prix.

EDIT: to su gume za iduću sezonu?

[Dero]

Znači svaki tim može dobiti 1000 km testa samo treba poziv iz Pirellija?
Tko nadzire taj test da se samo gleda degradacija guma?
Koja komedija od cirkusa.

[F1NAC]

It is believed that there was a similar test with Ferrari after Bahrain. There will be other tests as well with other teams as the season progresses but it seems that Red Bull is making a fuss because it was not doing the testing…"[/i]

kao sto podebljah , nije rečeno a i da je Ferrari napravio test sigurno bi red bull dignuo galamu oko toga. Tipicna izjava britanskih novinara

edit,

@Kenny :

The FIA have rejected Pirelli’s plans to change their tyre compounds ahead of next month’s Canadian Grand Prix in Montreal.

The Italian tyre manufacturer made the announcement after a disastrous performance during the Spanish Grand Prix as the eventual race winner, Fernando Alonso, made an unprecedented four pit-stops across the duration of the 66 lap race.

Pirelli had planned to use the compounds from their old 2012 tyres in a bid to reduce the issues over tyre management.

After the pit-stop lottery which had resulted in Spain, the Italian manufacturer had pledged to revise their current range of tyres before the Canadian Grand Prix next month, amidst mounting criticism from the teams and drivers.

However, Formula One’s governing body have now quashed the proposal, suggesting that the decision to change to the old compounds would be in breach of the current technical regulations, which limit how much development can be made to the tyres during the season.

Since those plans were originally announced at the beginning of May, both Pirelli and the FIA have been looking for solutions to the ongoing argument over poor tyre performance, which has included severe graining and tyre degradation over race distances.

The decision to refuse the proposed U-turn marks an embarrassing episode, not only for the image of the tyre manufacturer but also for the sport.

The decision to reject Pirelli’s proposal has now raised serious questions over the long term future of the manufacturer as Formula One’s primary tyre supplier.

In recent years there have been suggestions that multiple tyre suppliers should be given an opportunity to compete in Formula One, with a number of leading manufacturers being linked with the sport.

The last time that two rival manufacturers competed against each other in Formula One was during the 2006 season, when Bridgestone and Michelin supplied their own compounds to selected teams.

Michelin eventually withdrew from the sport at the end of the 2006 season, leaving Bridgestone as the sole supplier to Formula One for the next four years.

After taking over from the Japanese tyre supplier in 2011, Pirelli’s long term future in the sport has now been undermined, with many of the front running teams pressuring the tyre supplier to make changes to the fragile compounds.

While the proposal to revert to the tyres of 2012 has been rejected, the FIA have negotiated with Pirelli to make improvements to the current range of compounds to reduce the demands on tyre management.

The biggest change must be made on the construction of the tyre which has been prone to separating from the bonding of the wheel, particularly when damaged or punctured.

Alarmingly, the separation of the tyre tread has also occurred when tyres have overheated, a common problem which has led to examples of the tyre failing and separating from the wheel rim.

After making significant changes to the dynamics of the tyres before the start of the season, Pirelli must now find a way of strengthening the tyres to increase their efficiency and their durability during races.

When the Italian manufacturer began supplying tyres to Formula One in 2011 their task was simple, make the racing more unpredictable and increase the likelihood of a two or three stop race.

The 2013 tyre compounds have not only made the races more unpredictable, they have also helped to divide opinions within the sport.

After being rejected by the FIA, Pirelli must now look at an alternative solution for their current range of tyres, despite facing mounting criticism from opponents within the sport.

The biggest challenge for the company will be making the tyres stronger, without further compromising overall performance, a challenge which looks set to divide opinions even further within the sport.

[gringo73]

Sad čitam da je Ferrari test navodno odradio s bolidom iz 2010.
Niki Lauda: "It is simple. We were asked by Pirelli. We asked the FIA. They said yes. Mercedes did nothing wrong" Iz RBR-a su rekli da nisu sigurni šta će raditi ako danas pobjedi Mercedes!?

[Cuky]

Pa u redu je, FIA im je odobrila test i tu nema ništa sporno, za mene. Ono što je za mene sporno je to da je test, koji je rađen po zahtjevu Pirellija i koji je poslužio Pirelliju za testiranje guma, držan u tajnosti od drugih ekipa. Ako se testira nešto što se tiče svih onda bi bilo u redu da ili svi testiraju zajedno ili da se sve obavijesti na vrijeme pa da mogu doć i pogledat test i rezultate istog iz prve ruke.

[Alonso-champ]

Ferrari was testing with Pirelli on 22nd and 23rd of April at Circuit de Catalunya. Officially it GP2 tyre test

[Dero]

Al to ti je F10 na slici. Sa 2 godine starom šasijom može svaki tim testirati kolko hoce.
Mercedes je navodno sa ovogodišnjim bolidom napravio test. I to je bit problema.