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[Cuky]

@mrd
nebih baš rekao s obzirom da u članku piše da namjeravaju koristiti Renaultovu PU

[zonelsk]

Nema ovo nikakve veze ni sa Ferrarije ni sa ozbiljnom ekipom. Djeluju mi tolko loše da mislim da ce na kraju 2015 izac iz F1. (pod uvijetom da sve posloze i dođu)

[Cuky]

nebih se složio...ako imaju stabilne financije (pod stabilne ne mislim na ogroman budžet nego da si mogu sezonu pokriti bez kašnjenja i sa pristojnim ulaganjem u razvoj) onda bi mogli biti ok. Ponajviše što im je dobro je što ih vodi Colin Kolles pod kojim je Force India ostvarivala sasvim solidne rezultate, a kad je došao u HRT čak su i oni počeli izgledati makar malo ozbiljnije dok ih financije nisu pokopale


EDIT: Čitam sad malo po F1Technical forumu...izgleda da su one priče o promjenama omjera u mjenjačima (1 promjena je dopuštena ove sezone) kod Ferrarija, McLarena i Toro Rossoa bile krivo prenesene vijesti. Promjena je bilo kod gotovo svih momčadi, ali nitko nije mijenjao omjere između brzina nego su mijenjali oštećene brzine za identične nove.

[F1NAC]

Citam da Renault najavljuje punu snagu i da se tek sad mogu usporedit s Mercom

[dmarijon]

Ako Vettelu Red bull crkvava s nepunom snagom...

[zonelsk]

nebih se složio...ako imaju stabilne financije (pod stabilne ne mislim na ogroman budžet nego da si mogu sezonu pokriti bez kašnjenja i sa pristojnim ulaganjem u razvoj) onda bi mogli biti ok. Ponajviše što im je dobro je što ih vodi Colin Kolles pod kojim je Force India ostvarivala sasvim solidne rezultate, a kad je došao u HRT čak su i oni počeli izgledati makar malo ozbiljnije dok ih financije nisu pokopale

Pa na tako sam nesto i mislio, mislim da nece sredit financije.

[F1NAC]

Germany's Bild newspaper said the reigning world champion team is alleged to have tested indoors at the Austrian company AVL's 'rolling road' facility in Graz.
The six-day test, involving Red Bull's troubled engine supplier Renault, reportedly occurred between the last pre-season track test in Bahrain and the start of the season in Australia.
Rumours of the illegal test reportedly began to circulate after someone circulated correspondence to the FIA as well as the Mercedes, Ferrari and Sauber teams.
Germany's Auto Bild reports that the test actually involved Red Bull's junior team, Toro Rosso, who have been deeply involved in the efforts to pull Renault out of its pre-season technical crisis.
But Red Bull test driver Antonio Felix da Costa had 'tweeted' in early March that he was headed to Austria for a '5 day trip'.
"Spending the weekend in Graz, Austria," he added two days later. "Not by choice though!"

zutilo al ipak jel moguce opet takve pi*darije? -.-

[F1NAC]

Germany's Bild newspaper said the reigning world champion team is alleged to have tested indoors at the Austrian company AVL's 'rolling road' facility in Graz.
The six-day test, involving Red Bull's troubled engine supplier Renault, reportedly occurred between the last pre-season track test in Bahrain and the start of the season in Australia.
Rumours of the illegal test reportedly began to circulate after someone circulated correspondence to the FIA as well as the Mercedes, Ferrari and Sauber teams.
Germany's Auto Bild reports that the test actually involved Red Bull's junior team, Toro Rosso, who have been deeply involved in the efforts to pull Renault out of its pre-season technical crisis.
But Red Bull test driver Antonio Felix da Costa had 'tweeted' in early March that he was headed to Austria for a '5 day trip'.
"Spending the weekend in Graz, Austria," he added two days later. "Not by choice though!"

zutilo al ipak tajni test je navodno odrzan između zadnjeg testa i prve trke. Sad ovo rolling road moguće da je zracni tunel ili tako nesto. Po pravilniku koliko sam uspio skuzit kad ovako na dinamometru testiraju nesmije bit nikakvih senzora niti prednjeg ni zadnjeg krila na šasiji i ne smiju bit nikakav bodywork oko auspuha.


EDIT:

navodno opet neki timovi zele ukinuti testiranje u sezoni zbog smanjenja troškova....

Formula 1 teams considering in-season testing ban to reduce costs
Formula 1 teams are considering banning in-season testing next year as part of a move to cut costs, AUTOSPORT has learned.

Discussions between teams and the FIA are ongoing about ways to reduce spending - with a big focus on more standard parts, an expansion of parc ferme rules and a reduction in the number of working personnel allowed at a grand prix.

But sources have revealed that one avenue that is also being seriously evaluated is an overhaul of testing.

It is understood that a number of proposals are being discussed, including a ban on in-season testing once again.

For this year, teams agreed to a return of a limited number of post-race tests.These have already taken place after the Bahrain and Spanish Grands Prix, and there will be further runs after the British and Abu Dhabi races.

But although some teams have welcomed the value of the tests, not all of them are convinced that they are justified because of increased expenditure and the extra stress it puts on personnel.

As well as a potential ban on in-season testing, there are also moves to cut back on pre-season running next year, and it is likely there will be only two tests now before the first race of the year.

There also appears to be little desire to run outside of Europe, because of the extra cost that entailed for teams this year as they got to grips with their new 2014 cars.

It could mean that just two pre-season tests take place next year in Spain.

SPORTING RULES BEST WAY TO CUT COSTS

The focus on such changes to the sporting rules to reduce costs has been supported by Ferrari technical director James Allison, who thinks that it may be a better way of controlling spending than changes to technical rules.

"One of things we've said is that in general the technical regulations have not been the happiest hunting ground for saving margins," he said at the Monaco GP, when asked to respond to comments from FIA president Jean Todt that current ideas were a 'joke'.

"Sporting regulations have been generally more effective in that, so if there's an amount of effort to be put into discussing stuff, probably the biggest amount of money will be saved if we focus our effort on the sporting side.

"Saying that, there always are areas on the technical side where you can save chunks of money. I think it would be wrong to say these things are a joke.

"There are a large number of proposals on the table, they just need to be talked about until the ones which are a joke fall off the table and the ones which aren't stay on the table, and hopefully the questions of sustainability are resolved."

McLaren racing director Eric Boullier reckons F1 has to be careful of making too many rule changes in a short space of time, because that could actually drive costs up rather than down.

"We have to be careful. The more change we do to the regulations, the more money we could potentially spend adjusting our business to the new rules," Boullier warned.

"We know trying to keep the regulations stable over a few years is the best way to make sure we are saving money.

"At the same time, there are a couple of big discussions about the format of the weekend, the price of the engine, restriction in the windtunnel, where we could potentially save more money.

"This is what we are trying to agree for the future, but not going into any crazy decisions, because we could produce the inverse of what we want to do."

[Cuky]

@FINAC
Nebi vjerovao ali upravo sam pred 10 minuta pročitao tekst na somersf1 koji objašnjava zašto taj test nije ilegalan. Ukratko: test je legalan (jer se testira motor) ukoliko na bolidu nema prednjeg i stražnjeg krila, ukoliko se ispušni plinovi cijevima odvode dalje od bolida prije nego što dođu u kontakt sa bilo kojim dijelom bolida i ukoliko nema nikakvog senzora koji bi omogućavao mjerenje protoka zraka oko bolida. Detaljnije OVDJE. Nadalje, Red Bull je potvrdio da oni nisu radili nikakva testiranja što znači da je testove radio Toro Rosso.


Također na istom sajtu, jako lijepo pojašnjene razlike između konfiguracija PU kod različitih proizvođača i različitih timova istog proizvođača PU
http://www.somersf1.blogspot.co.uk/2014 ... cture.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Inače, koga god malo više zanima tehnički dio F1 ovaj bi sajt trebao spremiti...često se objavljuju novi članci koji su jasni čak i onima manje upućenim u tehnologiju, upotpunjeni sa jasnim skicama


EDIT: Naletjeh na nekoliko postova u kojima se spominje da će se za 2015. moći rehomologirati PU...nebih znao koliko je to točna informacija, niti ako je to tako zamišljeno od početka ili je to zbog Hondinog dolaska. Uglavnom, po meni bi više smisla imalo da su im za ovu godinu pustili da slobodno razvijaju PU, pa ih onda nakon godinu dana "testiranja" na stazi i u utrkama homologiraju. Nejasno mi je zašto se tako nešto radilo kad su uvedeni V8 motori koji su se homologirali nakon VN Japana (predzadnja utrka 2006.) ili nakon VN Brazila (zadnja utrka), a sada sa puno složenijim PU to im nije dopušteno.

[F1NAC]

Ukida se FP1 od sljedece godine

Formula 1 is set to reduce the number of practice sessions at Grand Prix weekends from next season.

The proposal is for the sport's traditional Thursday media activities to be pushed over to Friday mornings, with just one 90-minute session being held late in the afternoon. This would, in theory, allow team personnel to arrive at a circuit one day later than usual, thus significantly cutting down on hotel expenses and travel costs.

The idea comes amid ongoing talks about how to reduce costs, as smaller teams continue to struggle. Although a full-blown cost cap had been scheduled, it was recently abandoned due to opposition from bigger outfits.

Aside from the financial benefits, it is also being argued that a later start time would increase the number of spectators watching the action trackside, with people no longer required to skip an entire working day.

With teams reportedly agreeing on the idea, it is now set to go through the Formula 1 Commission and the FIA World Motor Sport Council (WMSC), which has the power to rubber-stamp it for the 2015 campaign.

[gringo73]

Ukida se FP1 od sljedece godine

Formula 1 is set to reduce the number of practice sessions at Grand Prix weekends from next season.

The proposal is for the sport's traditional Thursday media activities to be pushed over to Friday mornings, with just one 90-minute session being held late in the afternoon. This would, in theory, allow team personnel to arrive at a circuit one day later than usual, thus significantly cutting down on hotel expenses and travel costs.

The idea comes amid ongoing talks about how to reduce costs, as smaller teams continue to struggle. Although a full-blown cost cap had been scheduled, it was recently abandoned due to opposition from bigger outfits.

Aside from the financial benefits, it is also being argued that a later start time would increase the number of spectators watching the action trackside, with people no longer required to skip an entire working day.

With teams reportedly agreeing on the idea, it is now set to go through the Formula 1 Commission and the FIA World Motor Sport Council (WMSC), which has the power to rubber-stamp it for the 2015 campaign.

Manje momčadi nisu baš oduševljene prijedlogom. Ista stvar je bila i u MotoGP-u: '09 i '10 su ukinili 1 trening petkom (razlog je bio opća ekonomska kriza), da bi danas imali 4 treninga (umjesto nekad 3) + Q1 i Q2. I tamo je malo tko bio oduševljen manjkom vremena na stazi.

[Cuky]

i jučer kroz oba treninga na Sky-u je Croft čitao tweetowe koji su u velikoj većini tu odluku uspoređivali sa duplim bodovima na zadnjoj utrci

[F1NAC]

VN Kanade produzila ugovor jos 10 godina

[Cuky]

ozbiljno? pa govorilo se da je ovo zadnja VN Kanade...

[F1NAC]

ozbiljno? pa govorilo se da je ovo zadnja VN Kanade...

jap danas se to navodno potvrdilo sve.

16:33 – The Canadian Grand Prix will remain on the Formula 1 calendar until at least the 2024 campaign, with race organisers confirming that an agreement has been reached for a ten-year contract extension.

The fresh deal was announced during a special press conference held at the Circuit Gilles Villeneuve ahead of qualifying for this year's Grand Prix, attended by a selection of venue officials and government figures.

More than $30m is set to be spent on improving facilities, including new paddock and race control buildings.

The Montreal track joined the Formula 1 roster back in 1978, and has only missed two seasons since.

[Domi]

Odlične vijesti, ovo je jedna od onih par staza koje zaslužuju vječno biti u kalendaru

[Alonso-champ]

ozbiljno? pa govorilo se da je ovo zadnja VN Kanade...

Hvala Bogu pa se to nije uistinilo...

[Toon]

Glupo je otvarati novu temu no za ljubitelje riješavanja problema i izmišljanja genijalnih riješenja:


i LINK ZA PRIJAVU

s obzirom da ste za ovo saznali od mene očekujem 10% od iznosa ako ga ja ne osvojim...

[Cuky]

kratki video koji, bar po mom mišljenju, jednostavno i lako razumljivo objašnjava funkcioniranje brake-by-wire sistema
http://www.formula1.com/news/technical/ ... /1192.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[zonelsk]

Jedna lijepa vijest.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news ... al-3703344

MS je budan i danas je napustio bolnicu.

[FerrariF1]

lijepa vijest za sve nas

[speedy56]

Formula 1 chiefs are to discuss ways to make the sport more popular with fans during a crunch meeting that takes place at Biggin Hill near London on Wednesday.

A meeting of the F1 Commission, made up of teams, promoters, sponsors and key representatives from the FIA and FOM including Bernie Ecclestone and Jean Todt, has been called to try to agree on much-needed cost cuts.

Why F1's cost-cutting proposals fall short

But AUTOSPORT has learned that as well as the cost issues that will be presented for approval, concerns about the decline in interest in the sport have prompted the tabling of talks about improving the spectacle.

On the agenda for the meeting are two interesting discussion points.

The first is titled: "Improving the show: how can we make Formula 1 more attractive to our fans?"

And the second is: "The rule changes: who is going to take responsibility for educating the public in order to reinforce their information?"

The inclusion of these items shows that F1's chiefs are taking seriously the fact that television audiences are suffering a worldwide decline.

Furthermore, there are growing suggestions that grand prix racing has neglected the strides that other sports have made in embracing new media.

Only last week, Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo urged Ecclestone to hold a meeting with key players, including social media giants, later this year to try to find solutions, amid concerns that the sport had taken a wrong turn.

NOISE ALSO ON AGENDA

One of the big talking points this year was the noise issue, with a number of fans unhappy about the fact the new turbo engines were quieter than the old V8 power units.


Discussions about the noise issue, in the wake of the failed 'megaphone' test at Barcelona, will also take place on Wednesday.

There will also be talks about the establishment of a Formula 1 Hall of Fame by the FIA and other contributors.

LAST CHANCE ON COSTS

The main aim of the meeting is to rubber-stamp a host of cost-cutting measures that have been proposed by F1's Strategy Group.

The FIA wants to see big reductions in budgets for next year, after deciding that it could no longer push on with plans for a cost cap.

A number of items have been put forward for approval, including more standard parts, a potential reduction in the number of power units, a cut back in windtunnel and CFD use, changes to the weekend timetable, plus tweaks in testing which will include no running outside Europe and a slimming down of in-season running.

The F1 Commission can only approve or reject items though - it cannot make amendments to what has been proposed.

With the window for making changes to 2015 rules without unanimous support closing at the end of this month, pushing through cost-cut changes on Wednesday is essential if there is going to be a proper fall in expenditure for next year.

A meeting of the FIA's World Motor Sport Council will convene in Munich on June 26 to ratify any items that have been agreed by majority support from the F1 Commission.

After the end of June, 2015's rules can only be changed with unanimous support from all the teams, something that is unlikely to happen judging by the gulf in opinion that has opened up between the bigger and smaller outfits about cost control.

Moram reći da mi se apsolutno ništa kaj ovdje piše ne sviđa. Bolje da danas svi skupa ostanu doma jer će s ovim samo još više ukopati
Improving the show - da mi je vidjeti to (možda 4drs zone?)
"Edukacija o novim pravilima" - daj me nemoj... Tko se hoće informirati će se informirati. Na internetu ima hrpa tekstova o novim PU i bila ih je prije nego što su ti motori uopće izašli na stazu. Ne vidim na kaj drugo bi se ovo odnosilo nego na PU
Zvuk - da, zvuk je loš, ali ništa ne dirati tokom ove sezone, a vjerojatno hoće kao što su testirali one trube
Sve podcrtano - da ne trošim riječi >

[Dani]

Užas. Podsjeća me na suradnju dva ili više proizvođača automobila. Na kraju će f1 izgledati kao VW paleta automobila ( isti qurac, drugo pakiranje- seat,škoda,vw )

[speedy56]

F1 failed to make significant cost-saving progress at a meeting on Wednesday, Germany's Auto Motor und Sport reports.
Earlier, it was reported that the F1 Commission - involving the FIA, Bernie Ecclestone, the teams and other key stakeholders - voted through the proposal to cut Friday morning practice from next year's race weekend format.
But German correspondent Michael Schmidt reveals otherwise.
"The shorter GP weekend failed," he wrote on Friday, "due to opposition from the (race) organisers and the big teams that had earlier agreed."
And that's not the only proposal that hit the dust at Ecclestone's Biggin Hill airport, Schmidt explained.
"With one exception," he said, "every proposal was rejected by the 26-member panel."
The proposed ban on tyre warmers was another victim of Wednesday's meeting, but Pirelli has offered to pay teams that run its logo on the blankets next year EUR 200,000 each.
So, the only cost-cutting done for 2015 and beyond was in the already tightly-restricted area of testing.
All pre-season testing will now take place in Europe, as Bahrain was ruled too expensive a destination.
The eight days of in-season testing has been reduced to four in 2015, with two days reserved for young drivers.
And in 2016, winter testing will shrink from twelve to just eight days, with a total in-season testing ban to once again be enforced.
A team insider is quoted as saying: "Once again we have failed to save hardly anything, but at least the crazy idea of the shorter weekend is gone."

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4 dana testiranja u sezoni od kojih su 2 YDT, od 2015. predsezonska testiranja su samo u Europi (u stvari ništa novo jer se u Bahrein ove godine išlo zbog motora), a od 2016. predsezonska testiranja će trajati samo 8 dana, a testiranja unutar sezone bi se trebala ukinuti.
Ostalo je sve odbijeno, uključujući i zabranu grijača guma

Puno manje loše od onih prijedloga, ali 8 dana zimskih testiranja...

[F1NAC]

Ferrari i Merc ce u austriji testirat neke dijelove na podnici od titana koji bi omogucili iskrenje koje se zeli izazvat da bude f1 opet"spektakularna"