Novosti - Arhiva

[speedy56]

u vezi zračnih tunela...

There were a lot of stories, but a lot of them were rather inaccurate, notably the supposed agreement of the Strategy Group to ban wind tunnels. This never happened. It might be a good idea, but the teams with wind tunnels are opposed to it (oddly enough). They do not wish to see the logic of spending money on computational fluid dynamics (CFD) to aid their design on the basis that the computer modelling can be used in hundreds of different industries, while F1 aerodynamics is fundamentally useless in every respect apart from trying to differentiate between a bunch of teams involved in an expensive arms race to create cars that are nice to watch but have little value to the world when it comes to aerodynamics. There was a discussion on the matter, but no vote was taken.

[Cuky]

Nije striktno vezano za F1, ali bi moglo definitivno staviti stop na ulazak VW-a u F1 ukoliko do ovog dođe....zbog varanja na eko-testu moguća im je kazna do 18 milijardi $

Volkswagen shares fell over 20 percent on Monday, after it told U.S. dealers to halt sales of some 2015 diesel cars, following regulators' discovery that software it designed for the vehicles gave false emissions data.

The company said on Sunday that it had launched an investigation.

In a statement published by the carmaker on Sunday, Chief Executive Officer Martin Winterkorn said, "I personally am deeply sorry that we have broken the trust of our customers.

"Volkswagen has ordered an external investigation of this matter," he said.

German authorities are set to probe Volkswagen for similar emissions manipulation in Germany, according to Dow Jones.

Volkswagen must now work closely with U.S. authorities, the German Transport Ministry spokesperson told newswires, adding that they expect the company to deliver reliable information.

VW could face civil penalties of $37,500 for each vehicle not in compliance with federal clean air rules. Some 482,000 four-cylinder VW and Audi diesel cars sold since 2008 are involved in the allegations.

The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) said on Friday the software deceived regulators measuring toxic emissions, adding that Volkswagen could face fines of up to $18 billion as a result.

Volkswagen is currently listed on both the European and global Dow Jones Sustainability Indices (DJSI), and was earlier this month deemed the most sustainable automaker among its indexed peers.

In a September 11 press release, Winterkorn said the award was evidence that the group was on its way to being the "world's most sustainable automaker."

A spokesperson for RobecoSAM, an international green investment group which puts together the DJSI along with S&P Dow Jones Indices, told CNBC Volkswagen's situation was being "closely monitored."

"Should the DJSI Index Committee come to the conclusion that Volkswagen AG is not eligible anymore for the DJSI, all market participants will be informed simultaneously," RobecoSAM's spokesperson explained in an email.

The Detroit News reported late Friday that VW dealers still had some 2015 diesel Jetta, Passat and Beetle cars for sale.

A VW representative on Sunday confirmed the partial halt of sales of the affected vehicles but did not give any numbers.

Winterkorn said, "We do not and will not tolerate violations of any kind of our internal rules or of the law," adding that the company was fully cooperating with the relevant agencies.

He gave no details on who would carry out the external investigation.

"This is not your usual recall issue, an error in calibration or even a serious safety flaw," Bernstein analysts wrote in a note on Sunday. "There is no way to put an optimistic spin on this - this is really serious."

Cynthia Giles, an enforcement officer at the EPA, said on Friday the cars in question "contained software that turns off emissions controls when driving normally and turns them on when the car is undergoing an emissions test".

The feature, which the EPA called a "defeat device," masks the true emissions only during testing. When the cars are on the road, they emit as much as 40 times the level of pollutants allowed under clean air rules meant to ensure public health is protected, Giles said.

"We have admitted to it to the regulator. It is true. We are actively cooperating with the regulator," a Volkswagen spokesman said on Sunday.

If each car involved is found to be in noncompliance, the penalty could be $18 billion, an EPA official confirmed during the telephone conference on Friday.

Volkswagen peer Daimler, meanwhile, signaled it may not be subject to the same violation.

"I have a rough idea of what is happening and that it does not apply to us," Daimler Chief Executive Dieter Zetsche said on Sunday at an event in Hamburg.

"But it is much too early to make a final statement on this," he added.

[F1NAC]

A folcika. Sto rec.

[speedy56]

Nisu ni prvi niti zadnji koji su varali na tim podatcima

Mene samo zanima što će biti s Audijevom WEC momčadi (Team Joest) ako/kad ovi uđu u F1 (najvjerojatnije će to biti Audi). Bila bi fakat velika šteta da se taj program ugasi

[Dani]

Bolje porssche. Ipak su oni radili motore. Auto Union je bio davno .

[F1NAC]

posto ce vjerovatno morat platit tih 18 milijardi i posto su im dionice ekspresno pale preko noci za 20% i nastavljaju ja VW ne vidim trenutno u F1

[speedy56]

Bolje porssche. Ipak su oni radili motore. Auto Union je bio davno .

Doduše, sad kad si spomenuo Porsche... oni su ovog ljeta potvrdili da će u WEC-u ostati najmanje do kraja 2018.. Ove Jordanove priče guraju VAG baš te godine u F1 s RB-om. Jednu sezonu će valjda uspjeti gurati oba programa, a na dalje bi Audi ostao u WEC-u, Porsche u F1 s ciljem na promjenu pravila tamo negdje 2020., 2021.
http://www.racedepartment.com/threads/w ... 18.110352/

Jedino što se u toj priči ne uklapa 100% je RB, ipak se više vežu s Audijem.

[zonelsk]

ma Rb ce u tom slucaju ostati samo naljepnica na bolidu, ili tglavni spozor, i tu njihova umjesanost staje.

sve ostalo ce bit pod VW znakom,

a vjerojatno ce povuci Porche inzinjere (ICE) i audijeve (elektronski pogon) sa WEC-a radi razvoja motora.

Jako velka grupacija koja mi se cini da ima potencijala napravit jako dobar F1 motor. Također ne vjerujem da moraju zrtvovati WEC da bi to postigli.

(jedno da ovo sa sranjem sada, ali mislim da ce se brzo oni opraviti od toga)

[Kenny]

Nije striktno vezano za F1, ali bi moglo definitivno staviti stop na ulazak VW-a u F1 ukoliko do ovog dođe....zbog varanja na eko-testu moguća im je kazna do 18 milijardi $

Nemora nužno biti, ako uđu u F1 i imaju dobre rezultate imaju i dobru reklamu

[F1NAC]

Nije striktno vezano za F1, ali bi moglo definitivno staviti stop na ulazak VW-a u F1 ukoliko do ovog dođe....zbog varanja na eko-testu moguća im je kazna do 18 milijardi $

Nemora nužno biti, ako uđu u F1 i imaju dobre rezultate imaju i dobru reklamu

a ukolko im se desi hondina sudbina propadaju jos vise, dionice su im preko noci pale za 20%

EDIT:

Jos jedan problem je da jedan od onih koji su bacali oko na F1 CEO VWa Martin Winterkorn je dao otkaz

[Kenny]

Nije striktno vezano za F1, ali bi moglo definitivno staviti stop na ulazak VW-a u F1 ukoliko do ovog dođe....zbog varanja na eko-testu moguća im je kazna do 18 milijardi $

Nemora nužno biti, ako uđu u F1 i imaju dobre rezultate imaju i dobru reklamu

a ukolko im se desi hondina sudbina propadaju jos vise, dionice su im preko noci pale za 20%

EDIT:

Jos jedan problem je da jedan od onih koji su bacali oko na F1 CEO VWa Martin Winterkorn je dao otkaz

I računo sam da može biti neuspjeha, ali mislim da je ipak manje vjerovatno nego Hondi jer oni već rade sa sličnim motorima u WECu

[Cuky]

pretpostavljam da Force Indiju i Sauber nećemo puno vidjeti u prijenosima na VN Rusije jer su ta dva tima od EU zatražile da prekontrolira F1 zbog načina na koji se raspodjeljuje novac od TV prava i sponzora te kako su pisana pravila
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2015/09/29/t ... tigate-f1/

[F1NAC]

20. Ožujka ipak zapocinje sezona

[Cuky]

promjene pravila na ispuhu (zasebna wastegate cijev) kako bi bila veća buka motora te promjene u načinu kažnjavanja za promjene djelova PU su potvrđene. Također, kamere na nosu kao one kod Mercedesa i Ferrarija biti će zabranjene.
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2015/09/30/n ... e-in-2016/


FIA će biti stroža pri kažnjavanju izlazaka sa staze
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2015/09/30/t ... ck-limits/

[bernd_maylander]

FIA će biti stroža pri kažnjavanju izlazaka sa staze

i treba, cini mi se da su se neki vozaci cesto svercali krseci track limits odredbe...
ali ali najsigurniji nacin sprjecavanja toga a ne kaznjavanja jesu travnate ili sljuncane povrsine van staze

[Cuky]

nije stvar u tome da su neki švercali nego da nije bilo konstante...na nekim stazama se to toleriralo skroz (Monza npr.) dok se na drugima kažnjavao svaki prijelaz preko linije.

[Cuky]

Evo baš pročitah na F1 Fanaticu...web stranica nekadašnje F1 momčadi Pacific je zadnji puta ažurirana na današnji dan prije 20 godina, no stranica je nekim čudom još uvijek živa

http://www.pacificgrandprix.com/

[F1NAC]

Forica.

Bivsi vozac STRa Alguersuari odlazi s 25 godina u trkacu mirovinu

[Cuky]

evo kako izgledaju planovi za izradu bolida...jedan je lik na twitteru počeo postati slike materijala koje je kupio na dražbi (samo CAD materijala ima oko 200GB). Materijali su za Caterham CT-05 iz 2014.

[F1NAC]

CAD porn definitivno

[Cuky]

danas je nakon dugo vremena i nedavne obnove ponovno otvorena staza Hermanos Rodriguez na kojoj će se voziti VN Meksika.

http://www.formula1.com/content/fom-web ... opens.html


I jedan onboard krug sa Emersonom Fittipaldijem za volanom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeEHQvYqyK4

[F1NAC]

Onaj prolaz između tribina je bomba. Ukoliko gledaliste bude puno bit ce spektakl

[Vuksa_KC]

Prvi zavoj malo Monza-sti, zatim slijedi ko Kanada, pa malo nekih neodređeni zavoji tipa Road Atlanta, pa stadionski dijelovi tipa Hock i Abu, možda malo i Nascar style.

[Cuky]

Ako usporedimo prethodnu verziju staze voženu zadnji puta 1992. i novu razlike su:
1. Dulja startna ravnina
2. Oštriji T1
3. Uža i sporija šikana T2-T3
4. Dulji pravac između T3 i T4
5. Oštriji T4 i T5
6. Apexi u T6 su sada bliže nego su bili prije
7. Uklonjeni nekadašnji T7 i T8, sada je tu pravac
8. T7 (nekadašnji T9) je puno kraći, skoro 90° zavoj umjesto nekada dugog lijevog zavoja
9. T9 (nekadašnji T11) je kraći nego prije
10. T10 i T11 (nekadašnji T12 i T13) su kraći i izlazak na pravac je drukčiji.
11. Pravac nakon T11 je sada prelomljen malom krivinom otprilike na sredini.
12. T12-T16 je novi dio staze koji prije nije postojao, sagrađen unutar nekadašnjeg bejzbol stadiona
13. T17 koristi samo polovicu nekadašnjeg zadnjeg zavoja

[Kenny]

Onaj prolaz između tribina je bomba. Ukoliko gledaliste bude puno bit ce spektakl

Jebem ti di ide F1 bomba je ako ima ljudi na tribinama. Tako je u singapuru, ili di već bilo spektakuladno nekad što bolidi idu ispod tribina, pa onaj glupavi izlaz iz boksa i slično, a ne staza.

Koliko se da vidit na ovom onboardu staza je sad skroz glupava, sve neki oštri zavoji, taj dio di je tribina je čisto smeće, trebali su ostavit zadnji zavoj kaki je bio prije, a i ostatak staze mi nedjeluje da nisu upropastili

Nego koji će im qurac go pro u autu kada je snimak sa nekog mobitela?