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Stavio sam naglasak na prve 4 momcadi prošle sezone i vjerojatne ce iste biti u vrhu i ove godine, pa mala usporedba njihovih vremena, pa sam njih izdvojio, a kompletan poredak ionako ima u clanku kojeg sam stavio...K1M1 je napisao/la:
nzm zašto si izostavio prvu četvoricu, i postavio samo od 4. do 11. mjesta.
EDIT. Source Pirelli.comTeams try full range of Pirelli P Zero tyres at Barcelona
BARCELONA - 24 FEB 2012 19:17 UTC
For the first time this year, the Formula One teams tried out the full range of Pirelli’s 2012 slick tyres, with the P Zero Silver hard, P Zero White medium, P Zero Yellow soft and P Zero Red supersoft all taking to the track in Barcelona.
In total the drivers completed 3697 laps, the equivalent of 17,207 kilometres.
At the second test of the year, the majority of the teams ramped up the development curve with their 2012 cars, seeing how they interact with the full range of Pirelli tyres on a circuit that is very familiar to all of them. A number of drivers also completed race simulations, again making use of all of Pirelli’s slick tyres. In particular, plenty of work was carried out using the medium tyre, which has been nominated for the first three races (together with the soft in Australia and China, and the hard in Malaysia).
The four-day test at the Circuit de Catalunya – the home of the Spanish Grand Prix – was characterised by quite cold temperatures in the mornings, which made it difficult for the teams to collect a large amount of representative data. The warmer conditions of the afternoon were better suited to the working range of the tyres and provided both Pirelli and the teams with some useful data and understanding of their behaviour. There was no rain, which means that the Cinturato Green intermediate and Cinturato Blue full wet tyres have yet to be tested.
Pirelli’s motorsport director Paul Hembery said: “It was an extremely productive four days, and we were helped by temperatures that – at least in the afternoons – were more representative of what we will expect to see during the season. The teams all completed the most amount of running that we have seen so far this year, 17,207 kilometres as opposed to 14,949 kilometres in Jerez. This allowed them to gather plenty of data on all four slick tyres that we can now analyse in order to come up with a few different scenarios for the first races related to strategy options and crossover points. As we expected, most teams chose to concentrate on the medium tyre, with the emphasis often on aerodynamic set-up work rather than tyre evaluation. However, we got plenty of work done and we’re satisfied with the levels of degradation and performance seen so far, as we head now into the final test again at Barcelona next week. It’s only then that we will see a more accurate picture of the relative performance of the teams, but from our point of view we are meeting our objectives.”
TESTING FACTS:
Both the hardest and the softest slick tyres in Pirelli’s range set fastest times in Barcelona.
Reigning world champion Sebastian Vettel topped the time sheets for Red Bull Racing on day one, setting a time of 1m23.265s with the P Zero Silver hard.
The fastest time on the third day of the test was set by Williams driver Pastor Maldonado using the P Zero Red supersoft: 1m22.391s.
The fastest time on the final day of the test was set by Sauber driver Kamui Kobayashi using the P Zero Yellow soft: 1m22.312s. This was the fastest time of the whole four-day test.
The driver to complete the most laps at Barcelona was also Kobayashi who did 243 laps (the equivalent of 1131 kilometres).
The fastest race lap at Barcelona last year was 1m26.727s while the pole lap was 1m20.981s – but with so many parameters being tested on the new cars, it is still hard to draw many firm conclusions.
TESTING NUMBERS:
* Total number of sets brought to Barcelona: 367 sets which equals 1468 tyres
- Of which Supersoft tyres: 34 sets
- Of which Soft tyres: 82 sets
- Of which Medium tyres: 110 sets
- Of which Hard tyres: 69 sets
- Of which Intermediate tyres:36 sets
- Of which Wet tyres: 36 sets
* Total amount of sets used: 257
- Of which Supersoft tyres: 16 sets
- Of which Soft tyres: 81 sets
- Of which Medium tyres: 95 sets
- Of which Hard tyres: 65 sets
- Of which Intermediate tyres: 0 sets
- Of which Wet tyres: 0 sets
* Longest run: 22 laps on the Hard compound
20 laps on the Medium compound
24 laps on the Soft compound10 laps on the Supersoft compound
* Highest / lowest ambient temperature over four days: 5 °C / 22 °C
* Highest / lowest track temperature over four days: 7 °C / 31 °C
TYRE SUMMARY:
Day 1
1. Vettel 1’23″265 on Hard New
2. Hülkenberg 1’23″440 on Medium New
3. Hamilton 1’23″590 on Soft New
Day 2
1. Hülkenberg 1’22’’608 on Supersoft New
2. Perez 1’22’’648 on Supersoft New
3. Vettel 1’22’’891 on Soft New
Day 3
1. Maldonado 1’22’’391 on Supersoft New
2. Schumacher 1’23’’384 on Soft New
3. Kobayashi 1’23’’582 on Soft New
Day 4
1. Kobayashi 1’22″312 on Soft New
2. Maldonado 1’22″561 on Supersoft New
3. Di Resta 1’23″119 on Supersoft New
A šta drugo da kaže kad se stanje čini takvim?dmarijon je napisao/la:Sve to ok zvuči, ali nekako - prešablonski. Slično bi ili isto odgovorilo 2/3 poznavatelja ili gledatelja
gringo73 je napisao/la:Skoro 50 minuta videa (skynews) - http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xp1fyb ... day-4_auto" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
tete su nice, pa to nekako izravna ted se prokurvao na sky.. al najvise mi fali jake.. on mi je odlican..
najjača je ova što nikako da izgovori kobayashiArmanini je napisao/la:gringo73 je napisao/la:Skoro 50 minuta videa (skynews) - http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xp1fyb ... day-4_auto" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
thx na linku..
malo za priviknut se na sky.. ne lezi mi bas, vizualno mi se ne svidjaju neki screenovi gdje stave neke podatke, nekako neuedno, ovaj sto se seta mi bas ne lezi u ovom odjelu
sto se tice testova.. ionako mi to nis ne znaci.. svima su prognoze jednake, i svima je ista prica - rbr, pa mcm i onda su blizu ferr i merc.. pa koji je jos top team koji se moze stavit u obzir.. ne postoji.. eventualno lotus, tek da se jos malo nakrca bezveze, al je on zbog problema ispao iz njihove kombinacije..
a cuj.. ako se nije pripremala za vijesti, kad je vidjela ime na blesimetru, malo je ostala.. al ajd drugi put ga je skinula kako treba 
- dmarijon 
Anti-Lag here.Taking a look at Red Bull going through their pit stop practice and we can tell a few of things have changed for this year: Red Bull have copied Mercedes’ swivelling front jack, which allows the front jack man to lift up the car but then get himself out of the way before dropping the car down and whipping the jack away.
Red Bull have also got a couple of new people on different positions, so the practice is helping them learn their craft.
It would seem that Sebastian Vettel now has a generic testing helmet. It’s got the usual Red Bull logos on the side but on the top it’s white with ‘2012 season’ in red lettering and the names of the race tracks (Spa, Monza, Silverstone etc) in black. I have no doubt he will be wearing a totally different design in Melbourne.
Nije stvar u tome što svi pišu da su ta 3 tima najjača, nego je tako završila prošla sezona i imam osjećaj da se ni ti novinari pored staze i neki bivši vozači neusude drugačije prognozirat i imam osjećaj da pišu ono što je malo sigurnije. Ko bi reko na početku 2009e da će RBR i Brawn biti onako brzi, da će Ferrari, Mclaren i BMW imati onake kante od bolida, a i da će Mclaren bit dobar prošle sezone? Problem je svih nas, pa i ljudi koji rade u nekom timu da neznamo ko ima koliko goriva u bolidu, jel vozači mogu ić brže od toga što su pokazali, ili im je to limit sad, a na kraju svi će doć u Australisju sa nekim novim djelovima tako da je moguće da opet imamo neka iznenađenja.senamozart je napisao/la:kolega kenny.nagađanja ili ne.jedno je sigurno a to znamo i za protekle 2 a možda i 3 sezone unazad.red bull je prejak za sviju bio i to nam je zorno pokazao vettel sa dva osvojena nalova.
točno je što kažeš da su samo ovo testiranja i nagađanja ali bojim se da ćemo opet na osnovu pojedinih izjava od ljudi koji tamo to uživo gledaju (ops.brundle i oslali da ne nabrajam) gledati bikove na vrhu poredtka.pazi.po izjavama ljudi koji prate ova testiranja.volio bih i ja da lotus sa kimijem bude ispred red bulla ali evo i oni imaju problema pa su propustili testiranja.s druge strane formula 1 je sport u kojem se sve brzo mijenja pa se isto tako nadam da će se i ta dominacija red bulla promijeniti i da će ne samo mclaren nego i ferrari i lotus pa eto i tvoj avatarski williams naći ispred tvornice pića.
evo trenutnog poretka na današnjem testiranju da me moderatori ne bi zbrisali jer se ne držim teme.
- dmarijon - dmarijon Okvirno, neke stvari se mogu zaključit. Može se vidit ponašanje bolida u određenim zavojima, trošenje guma... Sumnjam da će itko stavit Toro Rosso ispred Ferrarija ili Merca, kakva god vremena bila tog dana. Naravno, ono bitno će se vidit u Melbournu, jer vidili smo kako je McLaren funkcionirao na prošlim testiranjima. Ni pouzdan, ni brz...i onda su u tvornici do utrke pronašlo "riješnje". I opet to nije bilo to, ali je bilo razlika nebo-zemlja u odnosu na ono iz Barcelone par tjedana prije.dmarijon je napisao/la:Ali i oni koji znaju koliko imaju goriva, opet ne mogu znati kakvi su u odnosu na druge. A da znaju i to, ne mogu znati tko će kakav biti u "stvarnim" uvjetima , i čiji će se As iz rukava pokazati boljim.
ja mislim da je to zbog balansa težinesenamozart je napisao/la:za ovo prvo boldovano mi je normalno jako drago,pozlatile mu se rijeći ali mene nešto drugo interesira.naime,za ferrari kaže da se muči sa dodavanjem gasa (vjerojatno nakon izlaska iz zavoja).znači kad bolid izlazi iz zavoja,ako sam dobro shvatio,nema dobru trakciju i muče se sa podupravljanjem samog bolida što iziskuje dodatni rad samog vozača i gubljenje vremena.
