Formula 1 team - Scuderia Ferrari [F1-75]

[Cuky]

sorry, ali zadnji kraj im je sve samo ne debel. Uži su i od Caterhama i od prošlogodišnjeg RB-a. Samo su van izvučeni ispusi, slično kao na McLarenu, samo malo više prema van. A ispod toga je praznina jer se bolid jako sužava. Pogledaj pogled odozgo.

[dmarijon]

Tako je, da.

[Domi]

F2012 ugledao svjetlo dana

[dmarijon]

"Ovjes je temeljito promijenjen i novi Ferrari ima tzv. “pull-rod” sustav i na prednjem i stražnjem ovjesu. Takav sustav omogućava niži centar gravitacije i ostavlja više mjesta za poboljšanje aerodinamičkih svojstava"
Koji su nedostaci tog ovjesa u odnosu na onog kojeg je imao do sada?

[darky]

mana je stabilnost i čvrstoća
pushrod daje veću krutost

edit:
po meni pull-rod daje veću prednost na ravnicama, ali čupavo će biti na pasicama i hopsanju preko njih
push-rod je u prednosti u zavojima i na pasicama

[Forza]

[dmarijon]

Ha, stabilnost i čvrstoća im trebaju ako se tuckaju s ostalima za 5., 6. poziciju. Ako su ispred, onda ne

[F2004_the_best_ever]

Interviju: Fry, Tombazis.......
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[darky]

Ha, stabilnost i čvrstoća im trebaju ako se tuckaju s ostalima za 5., 6. poziciju. Ako su ispred, onda ne

a gle, to je drugačiji pristup problemu - malo radikalniji
recimo hamilton bi sigurno razvalio taj sistem (jako voli hopsati po pasicama)
a bogme i massa je imao prošle godine par incidenata sa prednjim osovinama
tako da je po meni ovo kockanje, mogu puno dobiti, ali i izgubiti puno
na testiranjima se to neće pokazati jer neće ići preko pasica, no kad dođu utrke, onda je priča drugačija

[Buba]

Unistice Ferrari sve ove godine cim oni govore da su sigurni u pobjede o starta i onaj cmar montecemolo govori o pravilima i pravom duhu kojim FIA treba da ovogodisnja pravila tumaci....imaju neki dil kao i prije 10 godina,bice svega

[darky]

ček jel su samopouzdani ko ono 2009?

[Scuderia]

Santander do 17-te sponzor Ferrarija
KLIK-njemacki link

Svake godine 30 milijuna eura.
Fina svotica.

[Cuky]

Mislim da 2009. nisu bili tako samopouzdani. Doduše, tada su bile velike promjene na bolidima i nitko nije znao di je tko. A i nitko nije znao da Brawn, Toyota i Williams muljaju sa DD Difuzorima...

[Scuderia]

Tehnicke karakteristike novog Ferrarija
KLIK-njemacki link !!!

[Cuky]

Zadnjica sa (naravno) skrivenim difuzorom

[King iCool]

Hahaha pa šta je ovo?? Takvu sliku zadnjeg kraja nam niti nisu morali dati...moramo počekati do utorka da vidimo kako bolidi od iza izgledaju.

[Cuky]

[gringo73]

Onakav izgled je odavno razvijan u FIAT-ovoj obitelji.

[Dero]

Fakat zanimljiva izvedba, ajd barem su ispunili obecanje kada su rekli da nema konzervativnog pristupa autu. Radikalnije nisu mogli a još nismo ni vidjeli cijeli stražnji kraj bolida.
Nekako sumnjam da ce Massa preživjeti sve utrke sa pull rodom.

Pogodak ili promašaj viditi cemo u Australiji.

[Kenny]

sorry, ali zadnji kraj im je sve samo ne debel. Uži su i od Caterhama i od prošlogodišnjeg RB-a. Samo su van izvučeni ispusi, slično kao na McLarenu, samo malo više prema van. A ispod toga je praznina jer se bolid jako sužava. Pogledaj pogled odozgo.

Krivo sam se izrazio, mislio sam da je širok stražnji kraj, čak im je širi nego na 150italia

Gringo: Dobra ti je ova

[dmarijon]

Mislim da je bolid po izgledu toliko radikalan da će se ovaj put već na testovima moći naslutiti da li je pogodak ili promašaj.
A massa i pull rod - o da!

[One and only]

Samo me zanima kako su naprijed uspjeli postaviti pull rod na ovako visok nos. To je skoro pa nemoguće. Dosta zanimljivih detalja ovo auto ima, a bolid ima jako detaljno razrađenu aerodinamiku. Nije "jednostavan" izvana kao prijašnje generacije. Bit će zanimljivo vidjeti kakvim će se pokazati.

[Dero]

PortalF1 usporedba mp4-27 / F2012

[F2004_the_best_ever]

Bolid nije lijep ali to je i bilo očekivano, posebno kada je to nagovijestio Domenicali.
Za mene je navažnije da bolid bude najbrži a što se tiče tih sporednih efekata za mene je važniji zvuk motora nego ljepota bolida i krivo mi je što nema više V10 motora u F1.
Bolid ima dosta zanimljivih riješenja, mada moramo sačekati testiranja i prvu utrku da bi vidjeli još neka zanimljiva riješenja, vjerujem da će ih biti.
Zanima me kako će Ferrari funkcionirati sa pull-rod ovjesom.

Edit:
Odlična slika novog bolida
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[Forza]

Technical review by RC Engineering

The F2012 is the fifty eighth car built by Ferrari with the express purpose of taking part in the Formula 1 World Championship. It adopts a well established tradition of being named after its year of manufacture.

The project, which goes by the internal code number of 663, constitutes the Scuderia’s interpretation of the technical and sporting regulations that apply this year: the main changes when compared to 2011 concern the height of the front section of the chassis, the position of the exhaust pipes and the mapping for the electronic engine management.

Practically every area of the car has been fundamentally revised, starting with the suspension layout: both the front and rear feature pull-rods, aimed at favouring aerodynamic performance and lowering the centre of gravity. The front wing is derived from the one introduced on the 150º Italia in the final part of its racing life and has been evolved from there. Further evolutions are planned in this area for the opening races of the season. The nose has a step in it that is not aesthetically pleasing: with the requirement from the regulations to lower the front part, this was a way of raising the bottom part of the chassis as much as possible for aerodynamic reasons. The sides have been redesigned, through modifications to the side impact structures, the repositioning of the radiators and revisions to all aerodynamic elements.

The lower part of the rear of the car is much narrower and more tapered, a feature achieved partly through a new gearbox casing and a relocation of some mechanical components. In recent years, the area of exhausts has been crucial in terms of car performance and much effort was expended on this front, based on changes to the regulations introduced this year. The rear wing is conceptually similar to the one used in 2011, but every detail of it has been revised and it is now more efficient. Naturally, it is still fitted with DRS (a drag reduction system,) which is operated hydraulically. The front and rear air intakes for the brakes have been redesigned and work was carried out in collaboration with Brembo to optimise the braking system.

The engine in the F2012 is an evolution of the one that powered last year’s car, which is inevitable given that the technical regulations forbid any modification to internal components aimed at increasing performance. Furthermore, much effort has gone into improving its installation in the new chassis, so as not to penalise the aerodynamics of the car. Another area on which the Maranello engine specialists have been working is performance drop off, with the aim of maintaining the highest possible performance level throughout each engine’s cycle of use, which has now reached an average life of three races. The electronic management of the engine has been revised based on the modifications to the rules regarding the use of exhaust gases, a task that has required a great deal of attention and many hours on the test bed. The kinetic energy recovery system maintains its low central location in the car – a choice also aimed at maximising safety – and has undergone an update directed mainly at reducing its weight and at improving the efficiency of some of its components. Several decades of technical collaboration with Shell has seen further progress on the fuel and lubricants front, revolving around improving performance in absolute terms and on durability over the life cycle of the engines, as well as reducing consumption. As usual, great attention has been paid to the electronics on the car, especially in terms of reducing weight and, obviously, reliability.

As always at Ferrari, a great deal of time has been devoted to the performance and optimisation of the materials used, right from the design stage of each of around six thousand components that make up the car. In part, this is done to ensure that all operations carried out at the race track are as efficient and effective as possible. Obviously, quality control remains a crucial aspect, as does the goal of reaching maximum levels of performance and reliability, while maintaining the highest possible safety standards.

With a reduction in the number of days available for track testing before the start of the Championship, which has dropped from fifteen to twelve, preparatory work on the test beds prior to the car’s track debut, has taken on even more importance. The three test sessions – at Jerez de la Frontera and Barcelona – will serve to get a picture of the handling of the F2012 and to adapt it to the Pirelli tyres. Indeed, getting the most out of the tyres has been an area that has seen a lot of work both at the design stage and in how the activities at the track are to be managed. The car is due to undergo a very intensive development programme over the first part of the season, especially on the aerodynamic front.

There is likely to be much discussion about the 663′s nose design, where the front of the monocoque meets the nose. This is something that is typical of the 2012 cars but unusually the Ferrari has the space between the ‘turrets’ filled in, whilst others like the Force India VJM05 and Caterham CT01 have it open. The deep nose supports with the twin camera mounts inside are a direct carry over from the 2011 car, at least in terms of concept.

The 663 features pull rod suspension, a major change from the 2011 car. With the 2012 regulation changes essentially outlawing blown floors the rear area of the cars revert pretty much to early 2009 specification (before everyone noticed the double diffusers fitted to the Brawm, Toyota and Williams). This makes a pull rod layout more attractive at the rear. As was the case with the McLaren the diffuser has been blanked off to prevent prying eyes getting a look before the first test at Jerez. Note the exhaust exit location just visible in the picture above.


On the roll hoop/engine cover the 663 features a cooling duct for the gearbox heat exchanger. Very similar in concept to the one found on the McLaren MP4-26.

Further images released by Ferrari from the cars rather quiet launch event show the 663′s pull rod front suspension arrangement better. The design is the talk of the F1 paddock already with many engineers scratching their heads about how it could possibly work.

The pull rod runs downward from near the top of the upright to the base of the chassis where it is likely the torsion bars and dampers are mounted. A first look at the cars bulkhead will be very revealing.

Scarbs Technical Analysis:



However, the greater height beneath the nose does produce increased potential to drive airflow to the leading edge of the sidepods for more downforce.

But it also raises issues with the car's centre of gravity. To make this lower, Ferrari has innovatively opted for a pull-rod front suspension, which places the heavy metal rockers and springs lower down. The team has also reported a small aero gain for this suspension layout.

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