Formula 1 team - Scuderia Ferrari [F1-75]

[Dero]

[Dani]

Ove slike dugo nije bilo.

[Chuck Norris]

Ove slike dugo nije bilo.

8,5 mjeseci

[The Greatest]

Ove slike dugo nije bilo.

8,5 mjeseci

Zar ne vidiš da pokušava podjebavat sa svakim komentarom na ovoj temi... ignoriši jednostavno.

Odlična vožnja... pokazao si da si najbolji još jednom.

[Cuky]

Malo sam čitao na f1technical forumu i neki su članovi primjetili da je F2012 na prvom testu vozio sa velikim nagibom prema naprijed, tj. stražnji kraj je bio dosta podignut od zemlje, kao prošle godine RB. No već na drugom danu je stražnji kraj bio skroz nisko. Nagađa se da ispuh nije radio kako je zamišljeno i da su morali spustiti stražnji kraj da bi difuzor mogao funkcionirati. Inače bi ispuh trebao postići efekt da "zatvori" bokove difuzora, tj. "produlji" iste do ceste i time dobiju veći difuzor. Zbog promjene visine stražnjeg kraja ovjse mora biti podosta tvrđi, a aerodinamika bolida je dizajnirana sa tim nagibom u mislima. Zbog toga sada navodno bolid pati od nedostatka trakcije i nepredvidljivog ponašanja. Ferrari, kako se špekulira po raznim stranicama na internetu, radi na dva odvojena projekta. Jedan dio tima radi na tome da se prvotni dizajn ispuha usavrši i da onda radi kako je zamišljeno od početka, dok drugi dio tima radi na tome da se ispuh prilagodi na poziciju kao što je kod McLarena ili kod RB-a/Saubera u slučaju da prvi tim ne uspije sa njihovom idejom.

[Alonso-champ]

jel ima Ferrari problema sa pull-rod sistemom?

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/03/28/f ... uspension/

[Dero]

jel ima Ferrari problema sa pull-rod sistemom?

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2012/03/28/f ... uspension/

Definitivno zanimljivo i dobro objašnjena oba sistema i njihove razlike ali ja nigdje u tekstu ne vidim da su napisani točni razlozi da bi Ferrari napustio pull rod suspenzije. Ovo su čista nagađanja bez ikakvih činjenica o razlikama performansi.
Ferrarijev trenutni problem je manjak downforcea na stražnjem kraju bolida.
Isto tako po meni puno bolji review Ferrarijevog pull roda dao je Scrabs koji je isto tako napisao da trenutni problem definitivno nije u pull rodu i da sistem kao takav funkcionira jednako dobro kao push rod.

[Cuky]

Ono što je zanimljivo da Ferrari do sada ove sezone nije ništa neistinito rekao u izjavama za medije. Kako su se sve izjave pokazale istinitim nema smisla ne vjerovat im da je problem aerodinamičkog gripa na stražnjem kraju čiji je uzrok ispuh koji ne funkcionira kako je zamišljeno. A posljedica toga, da bi se anulirao aerodinamički nedostatak je onda drukčiji setup zadnjeg ovjesa, za kojeg bolid nije dizajniran i zbog toga pati i mehanički grip kad bolid ima malo goriva.

[Ferrari4ever]

E moji capucino majstori još da napravite pravi bolid di bi nam bio kraj , ovako i ova slika veseli ...šaču na stranu ima li koji inžinjer slobodan jer ga Ferrari nužno treba , a i Todt bi dobro došao da se vrati ma isto guštala sam u nedjelju ...jeeeeeeeee

[_dreamer_]

Posto vidim da nije niko ovo kopirao, evo malo novosti vezanih za Ferrari. Naime, danas su iz Ferrarija odgovarali preko twitter accounta na pitanja znatizeljnih. Zaista jedan super vid zblizavanja tima sa njegovim fanovima. Evo pitanja i odgovora:

wind tunnel, CFD simulation & track data
- It is fine, this is not the main problem we have

si mormora che il problema della F2012 sia nella sospensione pull-rod anteriore... Quanto c'è di vero?
- Nulla.. (The rumor is that the problem is the pull-rod suspension - Not true.)

How many non-Italians work at Ferrari?
- around 20%

what is laking in the 2012 ? speed or constant race trim ?
- Mainly top speed and traction out of the slow corners, generally some downforce

what should we expect in the improvements in the car? Are u going to build a completely new one (some press writes that)?
- No new car in the pipleline but we will work on improvements, starting from China and more to come in Spain

Q: Is it true we let Felipe do some testing during race?
- It is not true at all... Both drivers, Fernando even more, worked on different aero configurations on Fridays, as usual.

what are you working on for improving the car towards next race?
- mainly on the aero side

a spanish journalist says that you are developing a new chassis for Barcelona. Is that true or just upgrades?
- It is not true, as we told to that Spanish journalist in Sepan

who in your opinion is the best driver that ever raced for ferrari?
- difficult question... In the modern age, Michael and Fernando, but Kimi very very close to them as pure talent

Fernando spends a lot of time with team, doesn't he?
- Yes, true!! THis is very positive

Is Fernando a classical music lover?
- Yes he is

How's Massa?
- Felipe is obviously disappointed but he knows we have faith in his talent

Are you guys planning on hiring someone new since Felipe is not really making a huge imapct in the 2012 season?
- No, no plans

Will you be able to give Alonso a car to fight with the best this year?
- Our target is to provide a competitive cars to both drivers

In Malaysia Ferrari's engines across the line of 70 000 km of leading during the race. Have you celebrated it?
- Honestly, we did not know at all!!

Quante ore trascorre un pilota al simulatore per preparasi ad una gara? Grazie.
- Non c'è un limite, di solito quando un pilota trascorre un giorno al simulatore lavora 6/8 ore (How many hours a driver spends on the simulator to prepare for a race? Thank you. - There is a limit, usually when a driver spends a day in the simulator works 6/8 hours)

Se trabajara en alguna mejora del coche para llevarlas a China? Que podeis decir de la increible carrera de @alo_oficial ?
- Yes, there will be some improvement. Fernando did an incredible race, as in Melbourne and many times last year as well

How many hours does an engineer work back in the factory a day?
- It depends, 8/10?

any two drivers past or present, who would the Scuderia choose for their ideal team
- Michael, Kimi, Fernando, Niki: this is our personal choice

Avete sufficienti dati per le prossime linee di sviluppo o ci sono ancora zone buie?
- Onestamente c'è sempre da scoprire qualcosa, soprattutto in una fase iniziale della stagione come questa (Do you have sufficient data for future lines of development or are there still dark areas? - Honestly there is always something to discover, especially at an early stage of the season like this)

how long does it take to develop a F1 chassis?
- from scratch? Usually, you start working on the new car around April...

If you could bring back one track from the past, which one would it be and why?
- Imola, because is the closest!

Will Ferrari be at the Goodwood Festival of Speed this year & is there a chance Felipe & Fernando will attend?
- Yes, but we're afraid Felipe and Fernando will be unable to go

How soon do you think you'll be 100% happy with your car?
- we hope very soon!

what about Sunday? We are wondering whether FIA will double our points for one car racing while one car is testing...ah sorry
- Very funny....

are you guys going to make a creative front wing just like Mercedes to match them?
- It depends if it is really legal...

Are we going to see a better car in China?
- Hopefully yes!

is Ferrari set to sign the new Concorde Agreement?
- We've reached an agreement, this is the only thing we can say

what goals have the team set for this years championship taking into account testing and the 1st two races?
- The goal @insideferrari can have is only one: winning...

will the updates for china and Bahrein be significant or rather minor. When do you expect to have closed the gap
- Nothing major in the next two races

Will we see a new or different exhaust solution on the car before Mugello & Spain?
- Time will tell

Did you arrange a small party after the race at Malaysia to celebrate this emotional victory?
- No, unfortunately not... We did something here in Maranello with all the people of Gestione Sportiva

is it true that you guys want to return to the pullrod suspension instead of a pushrod?
- no

better to tell Stefano (i still support him) to protect Felipe well and do not let us disappointed again...
- This is what we're doing

Why doesn't a rich brand like Ferrari do charity?
- We do it but we don't say it...

Yo pienso que @alo_oficial es uno de los 10 mejores de la historia. En que puesto estaria para vosotros? Seguro en los top 10.. (Alonso is a top 10 driver in the history of F1)

what is the biggest car related problem you guys are facing at the moment?
- lack of traction and top speed

Any plans to introduce a DRS F-Duct like the Mercedes system? If yes, when will it debut?
- At the moment we've other priorities

what is the difference in Massa's car and Alonso's car?Y is massa lagging so much as both are equally talented
- The cars are the same...

I've heard that Kimi didn't know how to get to Maranello. ¿Is it true?
- NO...

can we expect to see any improvements to the car in China?
- we will have some update

Hello, we hear lot of rumors about Kubica in Ferrari, can you tell us something more about it
- only rumours...

How many people work on the car including the ones back in the factory?
- around 600

Where could we expect a reasonably winner car? Spain? Is there a scheduled program of improvements?Forza Ferrari! Avanti Fer!
- In Spain we will have a bigger update but time will tell if it will be enough

how does Alonso feel after winning the Malaysian GP?
- Ah, he was over the moon!

Was there no alternative of nose shape?
- not as efficient as we've chosen

why is Massa's car is slower by almost 10Kph on straight with DRS than Alonso's???
- This is not true

how come fernados car is faster than felipes i thought the cars were s'pose to be equal
- they are exaclty the same

Why does everyone call the F2012 ugly? I think it's absolutely gorgeous!
- Everyone has his own taste.. A nice car is a winning car in our view...

other than the new gearbox, what new parts/modifications will be fitted for the Chinese GP?
- New gearbox?? Not true

when is the next round of significant upgrades due?
- we will try to introduce updates at every race

Do you think Bahrain will go ahead?
- At the moment there is nothing which says the contrary

Are the team at all interesting in replacing felipe massa with Sergio Perez? or is that classified?

- No, not interested

Why Ferrari decided to go social this year (fernando on twitter&fb etc). will there be any new updates in China?
- Because we felt it was better to have a direct contact with the fans

are u expecting to win more races this season?
- Hopefully yes!

how you feel at last laps in Malaysia?
- Very tense....

Do you miss re-fuelling in races, or do you prefer the cars being full on fuel for races?
- Not particularly

Are u still confident in the decision 2 go with the step-nose design given McLaren's clear dominance without it?
- We don't think the difference is in the nose....

Does the anterior pull road suspension work well or it create trouble with the set up?
- It works
well

Will big changes to the car include new crash test,modified rear suspension geometry?
- NO, nothing of these things

any plans to replicate the Mercedes F-duct?
- This is not a priority at all

Am I right in thinking there will be big updates at Velencia?
- Hopefully earlier

any hint as to what upgrades will u be bringing to China
- Sorry, let's keep it confidential...

do you wish Senna had ever raced for Ferrari?
- Yes, we really wanted him and we've been very close. He was in Maranello few days before the accident in Imola...

Where is Alonso based now?
- In Spain

why other low teams have gone better from last year specially we hope ferrari could be on the front ?
- Ah, it is true they've done a better job so far but the season is very long

With a degree in English and German do I have any chance to work for Ferrari in the press department?That has been my dream.
- Sorry but this is not the only condition.... Italian is required!

una domanda ma durante il gp della malesia funzionava il kers di Alonso xke mi sembrava dalla grafica di no!!!
- Il KERS sì la telemetria no..

What do you think is more important to F1 - expansion into new countries, or classic tracks like Spa, Monza etc?
- Both things!

About the situation in Bahrein... What is Ferrari's point of view?
- we trust FIA and FOM on this subject...

Fernando has told you something about his tatto??
- He does not need to ask for permission....

perchè questo diverso consumo tra le due macchine?
-Consumo di gomme? E' una delle aree su cui stiamo lavorando per capire quali siano le differenze

Do you think fernando win any title in Ferrari?
- 100% sure!!!

Will you change the nose design to match that of McLaren's
- No, it is not a matter of noses

be honest now ... What's up with the Perez team orders at Malaysia?
- This is one of the biggest bullshit of the last few years....

Are we going to see a faster car in the next race ?
- We do hope so

Como se llama la persona que escribe tweets durante el Gran Premio?
It is Ferrari, no need for a name (name of the person who write the tweets during races.)

[Rory Byrne]

Am I right in thinking there will be big updates at Velencia?
- Hopefully earlier


hvala bogu!!!

[Cuky]

Očito nisi pročitao kompletan post jer pri vrhu piše da nadogradnje (manje) dolaze u Kini i Bahreinu, zatim test u Mugellu i onda veliki update u Barcelonu

[Armanini]

dreamer hvala za ovaj post..
super zanimljivo..!

trebalo bi sve ove gljive koje trkeljaju uputit neka procitaju..

[Rory Byrne]

Očito nisi pročitao kompletan post jer pri vrhu piše da nadogradnje (manje) dolaze u Kini i Bahreinu, zatim test u Mugellu i onda veliki update u Barcelonu

malo sam ga na preskake čito

nadam se da će sve biti ok sa tim updateima,pa da će se što prije uključit u borbu za naslov

[F1NAC]

@Crucial_Xtreme: Today in Maranello a F1 car was heard on the Fiorano circuit. The entire perimeter was covered with a black tarp so the track was no visible

radi se ..

Čini se da je Ferrari mozda otišao na pull rod verziju odispred zbog reactive ovjesa , kojeg je FIA odobrila pa proglasila ilegalim . Evo jedan post pa čitajte

The real problem with the F2012, a problem Ferrari cannot openly admit, is the ban of reactive suspensions (Lotus style). Ferrari's were even more radical than the Lotus, as they inter-connected also the front and the rear wheels and the left and right sides. This explains why the car behaves well with heavy loads and why it ceases to be effective under light loads; such a system would allow to maintain a stable height, and even more important, would improve the balance under braking, in pure traction exits and in slow curves. As Ferrari was not allowed to put it on the car, the rest of the car suffers, as everything was designed for that device.

The starting point of the exhaust system, pointing towards the wings of the rear brakes (that never had been so complex in a Ferrari car) would work with that device, but when the system was stripped from the car, all the original exhaust system did was to increase the instability that the device would have prevented. When it is said that there is a team in Maranello that is working on the initial exhaust solution, I think that what they are trying to do is develop such suspension device, but in a way that the FIA may not ban; meanwhile there is another team that is working on a new location for the exahusts (as the McLaren one, etc), and for that alternative location, it will be necessary to modify the sidepods and the engine cap, removing the "Acer Duct". If the first team is successful, the car will be a blast; if it is not, and the second alternative is used, the car may only be abreast of rivals, but not above them.

The ban of reactive suspensions by the FIA has resulted in a bigger loss for Ferrari than for Renault or for any of the other teams in the championship. This explanation is twofold; on the one hand that of Ferrari went beyond, as it interconnected the front and the rear wheels and the left and right sides, while the Lotus Renault solution was limited to prevent the pitch (or change in pitch) under braking and acceleration.

On the other hand the Ferrari is much more "pitch sensitive" than the Renault or any rivals who had plans to use such devices, because of its wide and very fine nose, that does not have an overhung, almost like a horizontal spoiler, different to any other nose used by the teams on the Championship, which are narrower, thicker and extending ahead of the pillars. The Ferrari is thereby subject to pressures from the nose, as when you get your hand out of the window of a car and put it horizontally: a little tilting is all it takes to displace it. When the Ferrari slows down, the nose tends to fall, and that gives more downforce in the front, but at the same time, it removes downforce from the rear and it, therefore, makes the car less stable under braking than the engineers had hoped when they designed it with the reactive suspension that initially the FIA did not declare illegal (which was why it was initially developed by several teams); later, coming out from a slow curve, the nose rises and reduces the downforce in the front, increasing it in the rear; that should be good for traction, but the traction lost at the front means that the improved traction may not be fully used, as the car would oversteer, forcing drivers to get out of slow corners with more restraint than necessary.

The woes of Ferrari begun due to the absence of a device designed to improve the balance, and due to the flawed aerodynamics of the car, that were planned for being used with that device.

But make no mistake, they will solve it.

[Cuky]

ovaj veći citat: To sam pročitao jučer, ali nisam smatrao vrijednim spominjanja jer je to nagađanje člana f1technical foruma. Makar, razmišljanje je jako zanimljivo i moguće da i ima ponešo istine u njemu, ali sam ipak malo skeptičan.

[F2004_the_best_ever]

@Crucial_Xtreme: Today in Maranello a F1 car was heard on the Fiorano circuit. The entire perimeter was covered with a black tarp so the track was no visible

radi se ..

Pitanje je da li je to F1, ja bi se prije kladio da je u pitanju novi Enzo.
Inače krajem godine bi trebao biti predstavljen novi Enzo, to će vjerovatno biti najbolji serijski superautomobil koji je do sada proizveden na svijetu.
Priznajem da sam subjektivan ali mislim da nisam daleko od istine.

[F1NAC]

@Crucial_Xtreme: Today in Maranello a F1 car was heard on the Fiorano circuit. The entire perimeter was covered with a black tarp so the track was no visible

radi se ..

Pitanje je da li je to F1, ja bi se prije kladio da je u pitanju novi Enzo.
Inače krajem godine bi trebao biti predstavljen novi Enzo, to će vjerovatno biti najbolji serijski superautomobil koji je do sada proizveden na svijetu.
Priznajem da sam subjektivan ali mislim da nisam daleko od istine.

VJerujem al ipak postoji razlika u zvuku F1 motora i motora od enza

[Alonso-champ]

http://translate.google.com/translate?h ... asica.html

[_dreamer_]

@Crucial_Xtreme: Today in Maranello a F1 car was heard on the Fiorano circuit. The entire perimeter was covered with a black tarp so the track was no visible

radi se ..

hehe, pa i ne bas

official ferrari twitter , alonso's twitter and massa's too say that at maranello there isn't any testing just hamashima driving to restaurant in F1 car, because they didn't have spare cars for him to use.

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[f.alonso]

http://www.derapate.it/articolo/ferrari ... des/36797/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Ferrari: Schumacher tratta per tornare! Massa silurato, andrà in Mercedes

[One and only]

http://www.derapate.it/articolo/ferrari ... des/36797/ Ferrari: Schumacher tratta per tornare! Massa silurato, andrà in Mercedes

Aprilili

[dmarijon]

namjerno su, mislim, stavili baš schumija da se skuži da je prvoaprilska

[F1NAC]

namjerno su, mislim, stavili baš schumija da se skuži da je prvoaprilska

Imaš i clankove di su Rosberga i Karthikeyana stavili umjesto Masse

[grumf]

Ocekivane kvale.

Ja ne znam sta vi hocete, ovaj zaostatak je meni potpuno prihvatljiv uzimajuci u obzir sta se ocekivalo. Shvatite da je auto bez upgrade-a dovuceno ovamo, dakle, nije se ni mogao ocekivati napredak. Alonoso je u kvalama po brzini sigurno malo ispod jedne sekunde u odnosu na prvog sto je bolje nego u Australiji. U ovom zadnjem krugu nije funkcionisao kers, a da je, sigurno bi isao na nekih 1.37.0, sto je za okolnosti veoma prihvatljivo.

Kvale su trenutno manja briga, mnogo je bitnije da bolid bude dobar u utrci. A kao sto smo culi, tyre wear bi trebao da bude dobar, long runovi sa vise goriva takodjer, tako da mislim da ferrari sa dobrim startom moze ovdje uz malo srece ponoviti rezultat iz australije, sto bi bilo izvrsno. Ocekujem da Merc ne bude ovako jak u utrci, mislim da ce biti na nivou alonsa. Francuz u lotusu je takodjer pobjediv, dakle, moze se ba ljudi, opusteno...

Sve vise vjerujem da ce taj veliki ocekivani update, koji bi trebao rijesiti pitanje downforcea na repu, vratiti Ferrari u sami vrh. Ustvari, ne da vjerujem, nego sam skoro pa siguran da hoce. Vidi se da auto ima potencijala u Alonsovim rukama i da nije toooolikaa kanta kao sto se prica...

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