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Post Postao/la Vuksa_KC » 12 lip 2019, 09:50

Meni su preslične.
Jedino možda Hamiltonu progledavanje kroz prste pomoglo radi uvjeta na stazi, ali opet...
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Eto do čega smo došli da ti navijač najzaštičenijeg proizvoda ovog sporta ide pričati nešto o utrkivanju, nejednkosti svih pred sucima i krene mi citirari Marka Helmuta i Montezemola .... #-o ... ne mogu više, ovo je previše i za mene, vruće je moram paziti na tlak....
ne znam na koga mislis mozda na Maxa pa njega su uvek kaznjavali eto ti sad najzadnje u Monaku. inace trenutno jedini tim koji ima povlastice je Mercedes i to se vidi na svakom koraku. To sto si ti navijac istog pa ti ta prica ne odgovara je normalno tvoja navijacka neobjektivnost. Inace sto se tice utrkivanja ja za razliku od tebe koji si ogranicen samo na F1 gledam jos 9 razlicitih serija i imam tacnu percepciju ko kako funkcionise. i sta hoces da kazes da Marko i Montecemolo lazu. Pa Montecemolo je rekao sta mu je Lauda otkrio znaci i Lauda laze. po tebi svi lazu cim ti nesto ne ide u prilog, klasicno.
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Ne navija Toon vjerojatno za Mercedes (direktno), on očito navija samo protiv Ferrarija.
Imam par takvih Real-Barcelona "navijača". Nije im bitno kak odigra njihov tim, bitno je samo da ovaj drugi izgubi.
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Re: VN Kanade, Circuit Gilles Villeneuve, Montreal - 07-09. Lipanj 2019.

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Ne navija Toon vjerojatno za Mercedes (direktno), on očito navija samo protiv Ferrarija.
Imam par takvih Real-Barcelona "navijača". Nije im bitno kak odigra njihov tim, bitno je samo da ovaj drugi izgubi.
Normalno da ne navija, prije bih se u muškarca zaljubio nego u mercedes...i ne navija u ovom slučaju protiv Ferrarija samo pokušava "poštovati pravila" - nisam ih ja pisao - jednako za sve što nažalost nije uvijek tako - no vi navijači crvenih to najbolje znate :) ...vjerojatno je GPDA predsjednik Alexandar Wurz najbolje objasnio u svom nedavnom obračanju - i on je protiv kazne i smatra ju "glupom" ali inzistiranje na uvođenju pravila i kazni za sve u F1 nas je dovelo do ove kazne...

A sada malo obračanja mornaru...odmah te upozoravam da otvoriš konzervu špinata jer je podugačak spisak od 2015-2018 godine raznih kazni i nekažnjavanja tvog idola kojega (zbog novca i utjecaja na mlađu generaciju) i te kako "guraju" interesne skupine F1 - želio ti to priznati ili ne...
Pokušao sam izdvojiti samo neke kazne i nepodopštine - za neke je kažnjen a za neke nije (deblje otisnuto) tj. u većini tih mu je "gledano kroz prste"...htio sam isprva izdvojiti samo neke no toliko je toga kod njega da sam gomilu toga morao maknuti i ignorirati...zaključke donesi sam...stvarno ga jadnog previše kažnjavaju 8) ...


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Re: VN Kanade, Circuit Gilles Villeneuve, Montreal - 07-09. Lipanj 2019.

Post Postao/la popeye » 14 lip 2019, 23:22

#-o

ne pada mi na pamet da se u ove kasne sate prisecam i vracam sta je bilo u proslosti. kaznili su ga sad u Monaku a ti si rekao da je "najzasticeniji proizvod" da je tako ne bi ga kaznili veruj mi kao sto nisu kaznili Hamiltona prosle godine u Nemackoj kad je kreno u pit preso liniju pa se vratio ponovno presavsi liniju sto je po pravilima nedozvoljeno.




ne navijas ti za Mecku ali pise ti za Mclaren a znamo ciji su oni bili partneri tako da je logicno da sad kad su u sukobu Ferari-Mecka ti naginjes na stranu Mecke.

bolje nemoj "pokusavati postovati pravila" jer su se svi uticajni ljudi slozili da su ista glupa.

kazne nije moralo biti da je onaj majmun (sudija vozac kako se zove) bio bistre glave.

i jos jednom za kraj, Max jos ni jednom nije bio u borbi za naslov tako da ako su mu i neke greske progledane kroz prste sigurno da nema onu tezinu kao Hamu i Mercedesu sto su oprastali (jer su se potonji borili za naslov).


heh sad vidim sta si naveo ajde da vidimo mozda ti i odgovorim:
Brazil – fizički kontakt s Oconom – 2 dana humanitarnog rada... Kakve to veze ima sa desavanjem u trci gde je Okon apsolutni krivac jer je zaostajo ceo krug i izbacio vodeceg i tako Okon predo pobedu svom kolegi Hamiltonu. kako Max ne bi bio besan pa ja bi tom Okonu samar lupio.

Japan – vraćanje na stazu kada to nije smio (sjebo Kimija) – 5 sekundi i 1 bod Cekaj pa ja sam sad skonto ti ovde meni nabacujes i greske za koje je kaznjen ne razumem zasto, sta je sa tobom? pa eto sam sebi uskaces u usta reko si da ga ne kaznjavaju a dajes mi primere gde su ga kaznili, boze tebe.

a sada preskacemo te za koje je kaznjen pa idemo na boldovane
Mađarska – ometanje Grosjeana u kvalifikacijama – nema kazne Hamilton ometanje tog istog Grozana na Silverstonu 2017 NEMA KAZNE



Monaco (trening)– vrača se na stazu kada to nije smio prvo žute pa duple žute zastave ali to ga ne sprijećava da se vrati (Rejoined the track when it was not safe to do so.) Nema kazne

ovoga se iskreno ne secam a posto je bio samo trening bilo bi debilno da su ga ostro kaznili jer kolko znam nije nista strasno napravio da je nekog s*ebo il tako. ako si ti da se za takvu sitnicu gube pozicije na startom gridu... mogli su ga novcano kazniti kao kad neko na treningu prekoraci u pitu speed limit a i to je nebitno. Hvatas se za slamke.

Azerbaijan – izazivanje sudara sa Ricciardom – dva puta mijenja poziciju na stazi kako ga Ricci ne bi pretekao i za to dobija samo opomenu

proglaseno trkackim incidentom. i taj slucaj smo vec prosli ja nemam nameru da se vracam na to. I ono sto si dalje pisao nemam potrebe ni citati vidis da su ga i kaznjavali a gde nisu sad ja da se vracam pa sa tobom nesto da se nabedjujem ih nemam pametnija posla.


I za kraj uzivaj u ovome :)


The various controversies of Lewis Hamilton

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Lewis Hamilton is F1's most marketable driver, but also the sport's most polarising. The three-time world champion has attracted as much attention away from the circuit as he has for his masterful and controversial drives on it, and has once again found himself at odds with portions of the media during this weekend's Japanese Grand Prix in Suzuka.

ESPN looks at some of the reigning world champion's most notable off-track controversies since his debut in 2007.

Licence suspended
A month after narrowly missing out on winning the world championship in his stunning rookie season, Hamilton was clocked travelling 121 mp/h in the north of France. Having pulled him over, police reported Hamilton being "very polite and co-operative". The Englishman had his licence suspended for a month.

Misleading the stewards in Australia

Hamilton's first title defence started on a sour note in 2009. He had seemingly managed to haul McLaren's uncompetitive challenger to a podium at the season-opener in Melbourne, but became embroiled in controversy for what happened in the final laps. Running fourth under a late Safety Car, Jarno Trulli slid off the road and was passed (legally) by Hamilton for third. Hamilton duly slowed on the following lap to let Trulli back past under the Safety Car to reclaim third position, something McLaren had advised him to do.

However, when speaking to the media after the race, he told them he had received no instruction to let Trulli past, insinuating the Italian had passed him illegally. The Toyota driver was duly demoted to 12th. The case was reopened at the next race in Malaysia where Hamilton, under the advice of team manager Dave Ryan, continued to insist he had not been told to let Trulli past. McLaren's radio communications proved otherwise.

Hamilton was disqualified from the race, Ryan was sacked and McLaren was handed a suspended three-race ban for being "deliberately misleading". Hamilton felt obliged to face the media and apologise to his fans for being misled by Ryan.

"Hooning" in 2010
Again in Australia, Hamilton was pulled over for doing burnouts in his Mercedes-Benz AMG C63 in Melbourne as he left the circuit. His driving contravened Victoria's "anti-hoon" laws and he was eventually fined £288.

The paltry fine angered local road safety campaigners, with one local politician, Tim Pallas, calling Hamilton "a d---head". Hamilton later apologised, saying his driving had been "silly" and "over-exuberant".

Ali G joke backfires

If ever there was a season Hamilton will want to forget, it's 2011. Erratic and apparently driving a car with a magnetic attraction to Felipe Massa and Pastor Maldonado, his McLaren never seemed far away from drama. After incidents with both at Monaco -- which led to two different time penalties -- Hamilton vented his anger about the stewards post-race.

However, the manner he chose to do so was clumsy, invoking the catchphrase of Ali G, the original spoof character of Borat creator Sascha Baron Cohen. Asked why he felt the stewards had called him to see them five times in six races, Hamilton laughed awkwardly and told the BBC: "Maybe it's because I'm black, I don't know. That's what Ali G says..."

It was clearly a joke, but an ill-advised one, and one which was further lost in translation once reported or written down. It led to another trip to the stewards to explain his actions, though he avoided further punishment.

Releasing telemetry
Hamilton is a keen social media advocate these days, but his Twitter account got him into big trouble during the 2012 Belgian Grand Prix weekend. Having qualified eighth while Jenson Button claimed pole, Hamilton blamed his decision to use a different rear wing to his teammate. Tweeting a picture of the telemetry comparing their lap times, Hamilton was attempting to show that his rear wing was costing him too much time on the straights.

Though he soon took down the tweet at the request of the team, the telemetry also revealed sensitive McLaren data, such as ride heights as well as braking and acceleration rates. McLaren did not discipline Hamilton. Meanwhile, a "disappointed" Button pointed out the rear wing should have helped Hamilton make up for the straight-line deficit through Spa's corners...

Spraying grid girl

One of the sillier controversies Hamilton has been embroiled in, but one which still gained media attention. Having won the 2015 Chinese Grand Prix Hamilton, like many other winners before him, sprayed all those around him on the podium -- including Liu Siying, a grid girl standing to his right.

The move led to criticism from anti-sexism group Object, even though Siyung later told local media she had no problem with Hamilton's actions. It was a storm in a teacup. Hamilton later said: "I would never ever intend to disrespect or try to embarrass someone like that."

Monaco car crash, 2015
Hamilton claimed the title with three races to spare in October 2015 by winning the U.S Grand Prix. A week and a half later, in the early hours of the Tuesday before that weekend's Brazilian Grand Prix, Hamilton lost control of his £1.5 million Pagani Zonda and crashed it into three parked cars. Alcohol was not involved -- Hamilton was breathalysed and tested negative -- and a police spokesperson said Hamilton's "foot slipped on the brake and clutch pedals".

Upon arrival in Brazil two days later for its grand prix, Hamilton said a lack of sleep after "heavy partying" and a fever had led to the "light contact" with the parked cars. He also posted to social media: "Whilst ultimately, it is nobody's business, there are people knowing my position that will try to take advantage of the situation and make a quick buck. NO problem."

Hamilton may have brushed the incident off at the time, but the distracted world champion lost the next race to Nico Rosberg -- the second of Rosberg's run of seven in a row. Hamilton, by contrast, did not win again until the following May's Monaco Grand Prix.

Motorbike selfie
Just days before the 2016 Australian Grand Prix, Hamilton was investigated by New Zealand police for recording himself while riding a Harley Davidson on the motorway. The video was posted to his Snapchat app and seemed to contravene New Zealand law prohibiting the use of a mobile phone while driving, which had existed since 2009.

Though Hamilton escaped further action due to lack of "sufficient evidence", local police warned him about the dangers of using a phone while driving a vehicle.

Criticism from PETA
Hamilton, a self-confessed animal lover, spent his summer a little differently to the average driver -- posting pictures of himself with endangered tigers on social media. He had been visiting the Black Jaguar White Tiger Foundation in Mexico, and his pictures included posing next to a white tiger and a video of a tiger sneaking up on him and play fighting, nibbling his hat.

The video caught the attention of animal rights group People for the Ethical Treatment Of Animals (PETA), whose director Elisa Allen released a statement saying: "Seeing big cats used for photo ops promotes the idea that wild animals are here for human amusement and to do with as humans please, rather than to be left in peace in their own habitat...

"Unless big cats are kept on tranquilisers, they're quite capable of becoming annoyed with him and taking a chunk out of more than his cap. Ask any victim of a tiger or lion mauling or the relatives of those who didn't survive one, they'll assure Lewis that cuddling exotic animals is a far more foolish move than tangling with Nico Rosberg."
An amazing day with my favourites at BJWT ... Thank you Eddie for all that you do, and for having us. #muchlove pic.twitter.com/dUno2yuGMp

— Lewis Hamilton (@LewisHamilton) August 9, 2016
From Snapchat to no chat
Hamilton's latest controversy started pretty innocuously -- the world champion earning the ire of some of the UK's Fleet Street media for playing on his phone during the Thursday press conference ahead of the Japanese Grand Prix. During the conference he had posted photos of himself and the unsuspecting Carlos Sainz to Snapchat with the caption "This s--- is killing me" -- though he later explained he had been having fun and that is problem was with the format of the press conference, rather than the media.

The incident would likely have passed by without much further attention had Hamilton not raised the subject again two days later. On Saturday, having seen Nico Rosberg beat him to pole position by just 0.013s, Hamilton made a statement about in his media print session -- which included the journalists who, he felt, had been "disrespectful" in their criticism of his Snapchat use -- and said he would not be answering any questions, before calmly walking out.
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Post Postao/la F1NAC » 15 lip 2019, 08:52

Opet ti sa previse baljezganja i iznosenjem tvrdnji bez ikakvog argumenta.. imas ti preko 15 godina uopce? Sto se tice Njemacke 2018. Postoji jedno pravilo i to je da kad se ulazi u boks obavezno se mora proci sa desne strane od oznake koja oznacava ulazak u box sto je Lewis i napravio. Rjecnik ti je boli glava.... ohladi se malo, sunce ce te lupit.
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Post Postao/la popeye » 15 lip 2019, 11:11

ej a sto vredjas jel sam ja tebe necim uvredio? razgovaram sa toonom i ni njega nisam uvredio ja imam pravo reci sta mislim o tom sudiji vozacu i ceo svet je besan na njega, a ovo sto mi kazes da nisam izneo argumente a ja sve lepo obrazlozio je tvoja cista provokacija jer je poznato da me mrzis. zasto mi Caki tako nesto nikad nije reko, ja i on se u nekim misljenjima nismo slagali ali on nikad nije bio prema meni ovako bezobrazan kao ti i nije me vredjao nego se ponasao kako pravi moderator treba da se ponasa a to je nepristrasno ono sto tebi fali.
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