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Kenny je napisao/la:Ja ove tvoje slike nevidim, a ni one u temi od HRTa i Ferrarija
Jbg,bile su,neznam zasto ih nema...
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Kenny je napisao/la:Ja ove tvoje slike nevidim, a ni one u temi od HRTa i Ferrarija
ah kenny što ćeš, pouzdan je ko i ferari ove godine :vragolan:
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I don't know driving in another way which isn't risky. Each one has to improve himself. Each driver has its limit. My limit is a little bit further than other's
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jesi ti procitao tekst u celini?
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koji text
I don't know driving in another way which isn't risky. Each one has to improve himself. Each driver has its limit. My limit is a little bit further than other's
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pinkdpanter je napisao/la:koji text
Kako koji,pa taj sto si ga copy/paste..
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hehehe, al sam se nasmijao :)
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neće...nisu ni 2010. imale odmah makar je djelovao puno jednostavnije od ovog
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Dobro, šta ste zaključili iz teksta kada ste ga pročitali u cjelini? :)
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čestitke momcima, zamalo pobjeda =D>
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Hrpa bodova, pretekli su i Ferrari u generalnom poretku.
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Walter je napisao/la:Hrpa bodova, pretekli su i Ferrari u generalnom poretku.
mislis alonsa u generalnom poretku :D
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Alan Permane on TFL. E20 would have new suspension and dampers. They are trying to improve traction of the car. Also few other parts but he didn't specify them.
Alan Permane on the China updates & Bahrain:

"We knew from Malaysia we were competitive," says Lotus engineering chief Alan Permane. "We were very uncertain of our aero numbers in China, and we were very uncompetitive on Friday, so we were cautious and took it off."

"We were rather spooked on Friday in China by the pace of the car," adds technical director James Allison. "We were very uncompetitive on Friday morning, only because our tyres were just too cold – they weren't in the window. Just out of total caution we went back to a baseline.

"We had used it on both cars in the morning, but we were rubbish, so for Saturday we went back to the other package. For Bahrain we had a chance to see that it was working alright.

"It's just part of the upgrades we're going to keep bringing. It's probably worth one and a half tenths, something like that – but you know what the grid's like now."

Only Raikkonen had the latest floor on Friday in Bahrain, and it was immediately apparent that it was working well. Kimi was ninth in FP1 and on paper an unspectacular 13th in FP2 – half a second off ninth-placed Romain Grosjean in that session – but the team knew what fuel loads both guys had been running, and after doing the numbers was hugely encouraged.

"We spent Friday morning looking at aerodynamics and stuff that we didn't think had worked in Shanghai," says Permane. "We looked at it closer and in a few different ways and managed to convince ourselves that we were happy with it.

"Kimi had the new floor fitted on Friday, and that was a major part of our upgrade. Romain stayed with the old floor, and Kimi was much more competitive. That gave us the first clue, and the aero numbers looked good.

"Friday afternoon we basically spent on high fuel. We did one run on low-ish fuel, but the rest of the session was done on high fuel. We were actually surprised; we knew then we had a good car on high fuel.

"It almost looked too good, and we were worried that we didn't have enough fuel and other people had more.

"We calculated stuff out and looked at the quickest Mercedes lap – because they were very fast on their long-run pace. We worked out what fuel they were on and we were fairly confident then."

The decision was made to give Grosjean the new floor for Saturday and he soon found an improvement in FP3 and qualifying, and in fact looked more competitive than his team-mate.

"We had the new floor on both cars for Saturday," says Permane. "We spent the morning doing our normal qualifying prep. From Friday to Saturday Romain went from being three tenths behind to three or four tenths in front of Kimi.

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Extreme diffuser for E20

Lotus and maybe the car that has the most extreme diffuser extraction profile with the end cut at 45 degrees, following a solution initiated by Brawn GP in 2009. This creates a transverse tunnel that carries air into areas of low pressure at the bottom of the rear tyres, making more efficient the central areas of the diffuser
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Lotus team principal Eric Boullier has slammed plans to hold Formula 1's young driver test at Silverstone in July as 'nonsense' - and hopes bad weather forces it to be cancelled.

F1's young driver test is being split into two venues this year, with 10 teams currently electing to run immediately after the British Grand Prix and only Red Bull Racing and Scuderia Toro Rosso opting to run in Abu Dhabi in November.

But Boullier is deeply critical of the Silverstone decision, which he thinks only makes sense from a cost perspective.

"It's a bit disappointing, to be honest," Boullier said. "I am a supporter of young drivers, and for me Abu Dhabi [in November] was the perfect scenario.

"The young kids finish the season, and you can organise this test in a hot, nice place, with nice variety. So I was actually a bit cross with the decision to bring it earlier to Silverstone.

"We had a strong discussion, let's say, and definitely I was against this, especially for the reasons raised. For me it is absolutely a nonsense to have a young driver test in July when all the young kids are in the middle of the season and focused on racing and the championship. We cannot disturb this. It is completely the wrong timing.

"You also have another issue: bringing this test in the middle of the season you have to consider there will be a different point of view for the team; and as a team it's another opportunity to develop the car and bring some parts to test."

Despite his criticisms of the Silverstone plan, Boullier says he had no choice but to sign his outfit up for it rather than Abu Dhabi because of cost and staffing reasons.

"Between choosing to go to Abu Dhabi for young drivers, which is very important for me, and Silverstone, I obviously have to choose what it best for the team and that is Silverstone.

"But actually I would like it to rain, so we will go back to the original schedule - which for me is the normal one."

Under the testing agreement that teams had signed up to, outfits can withdraw from Silverstone and switch to the Abu Dhabi test if there is a threat of it being disturbed by poor weather.

However, a team will be forced to commit to Silverstone if its car leaves the pitlane at the three-day test.
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Ljute (ili divlje, kako se uzme) ptice na nosu Lotusa
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500. utrka za LRGP

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sad neznam na sto se to misli posto sam Renault u F1 ima oko 304 trke + 5 ovih lotusevih i nije 500 ? :D
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ne nego 500. utrka Lotusa, dakle Chapmannov Lotus + zadnje dvije sezone Team Lotus + LRGP
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a da to mi ni palo napamet damn XD
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damjan.cule je napisao/la:ne nego 500. utrka Lotusa, dakle Chapmannov Lotus + zadnje dvije sezone Team Lotus + LRGP
nebih rekao, prije će bit ovo što su sad na FP3 rekli. 500. utrka ove iste ekipe... (koja se prvo zvala toleman, pa benetton, pa renault, pa sad lotus)..
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a tko će ih znat više...neznam zašto im je takav problem lijepo objasnit javnosti kojih 500 utrka slave
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to je kao dinamo i njegovih navodno 100 godina...:D
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Lotus: The wins that got away
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Five teams have won races in the 2012 Formula 1 season so far, yet despite its speed Lotus is not among them. Adam Cooper heard the team's explanation - and why it is convinced victory is imminent

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Thus far this year five teams have won races, and yet despite showing impressive pace on a consistent basis, Lotus is not yet among them. After Kimi Raikkonen came close to beating Sebastian Vettel in Bahrain, a victory appeared to be just around the corner, and up and down the pitlane, rivals have been fully expecting the Enstone team to make that final step.

Indeed on Sunday morning in Spain the consensus was that Lotus had the package to beat Pastor Maldonado's Williams and come out on top over a race distance, but in the end it didn't happen. Despite a late charge, Raikkonen had to settle for third, ahead of his team-mate Romain Grosjean.

Then prior to qualifying in Monaco many people expected to see the latter start on the front row and poised for a win in the nearest thing he has to a home race. And yet again things didn't fall into place.

Eyes now turn to Canada, a race where anything can happen, given the uncertain weather and a sharp focus on how the Pirellis well behave on Sunday. Confident in both its straightline speed and brake performance in Montreal, Lotus is determined to get everything right, and become the sixth team to win in 2012.

"It is frustrating, and I'd love to win a race," says director of trackside operations Alan Permane. "But what will win a race is consistency. We've not been as consistent as we have been with the disaster we had in Monaco, but the previous two races we were second and third and third and fourth. You keep doing that, and you're going to be there.

"Of course we want to win, and that's a high priority for the drivers, the team owners and the sponsors. But also we've got two good drivers who can really keep scoring some good points – not withstanding Monaco – and really do well in the championship. The long game should be the focus, really."

So what's gone wrong over the past two race weekends? As ever it's a combination of factors, and this year more than ever you cannot afford to make any mistakes or show any weaknesses, such is the strength in depth of the competition.

At Barcelona Raikkonen's strategy of stopping late and having fresher rubber than his rivals for the final stint nearly paid off, as he reeled in Fernando Alonso and Maldonado in the closing laps.

It was the polar opposite of Shanghai, where Kimi was well placed with a few laps to go but then ran out of tyres, and watched helplessly as half the field went by him. However the Barcelona strategy wasn't a reaction to that disappointment, but rather to a disappointing first stint.

"We weren't thinking about China," says Permane. "It was very clear from the first stint that we didn't have the pace to win. And we couldn't undercut them, as they were too far ahead at the first stop. So the only thing we could do was either hope they were doing four stops, or try and go long and attack in the last stint. At one point I did think they were going to do four, and I thought they would struggle. They took a gamble and it paid off. Doing the same as them or trying to stop a lap earlier than them would have done nothing.

"Maybe we went one lap too long, but we were also holding up Maldonado and Alonso a bit. The longer we could hold them up for, and they were on their final stint tyres, the better."

Raikkonen was some 18s behind the leaders when he emerged from his final pitstop, and he managed to close the gap.

"He made pretty much all of it up, it was a second or more per lap. But ultimately we weren't quick enough, that was the reason we didn't win," said Permane.

"After our Bahrain pace I thought we were going to be a bit quicker, but as I've said before, it's nice to be disappointed with third and fourth! In this game your expectations change very quickly. We got 27 points in Barcelona, more than anybody, and we moved up to within a shout of McLaren for second place."

Indeed Grosjean backed Raikkonen up with a solid fourth, despite his race being badly compromised. In six races the Frenchman has had three very expensive early collisions in Australia, Malaysia and now Monaco. But he also had a less well documented incident on the first lap in Spain, and while he survived, the car was wounded, as Permane explained.

"Romain had some contact with a Sauber at Turn 3, lost 2.5 per cent front balance, which is huge around a track like that when you're making adjustments of 0.3 per cent or something to trim the car. We put some of it back on at the first pitstop – we put the front wing to maximum – and got nearly half of it back, but it really compromised his race. He lost a huge amount of downforce, and front balance."

Given that obvious handicap Grosjean did well to earn fourth, and he went to Monaco with confidence high. Indeed such was his pace through the weekend he looked like a serious contender for the front row. In the end he had to settle for fifth, which became fourth after Michael Schumacher's penalty.

"It's always disappointing to be quick, and not get it right," says Permane. "Romain didn't get his qualifying right. I think we were one of only four cars to manage to save two sets of supersofts for Q3. He did a reasonable first lap, and he was second at that point, with other people that had run new tyres, but he failed to improve on his second run.

"I think that's maybe down to a bit of experience. He had more fuel in the first run as well, he had fuel for two laps just for a bit of security because he had time. Then we fuelled for one, and he didn't get it right. I'm pretty sure he had the pace to be on the front row."

From fourth there was still plenty of potential to move up with a bit of clever strategy, but alas he didn't get past Sainte Devote, bouncing off Alonso into the path of Schumacher.

"In the race he screwed the start up, didn't use enough throttle, and got it wrong. What happened with the accident was Fernando moved across and touched him and he maybe over-reacted a little bit and went into Michael's path. We had to go and see the stewards after the race, and they agreed it was a racing incident. They were very reasonable, I have to say. But his race was over, so going from a very promising Thursday we ended up with nothing."

And then there was Raikkonen, a Monaco winner with McLaren in 2005. Even a world champion needs time to play his hand in around the streets of the principality after two years away, but Kimi made his life difficult by missing the first Thursday session.

He concluded after one lap that the customised higher-geared steering system developed by the team was not to his liking. After that it was an uphill battle, the afternoon's rain costing him more track time.

"I don't want to say he didn't turn up, but he had a difficult start to the weekend with his power steering," says Permane. "He said 'Absolutely no way,' which is a bit of a shame really because what we did we only did because of his request. We designed something specifically to his specification. We said, 'What do you want to use in Monaco, what have you used in Monaco before?' We produced that and he didn't like it. He said there was no way he could drive with it, so we lost the session."

Could he have muddled through at least the first part of practice one and then have it changed in the lunch break? Permane accepts it would have been tough for the Finn if he wasn't happy or confident in the feel of the car.

"He is incredibly sensitive to steering, so I think it would have been a waste of time. If he says so, then there's no point. It wasn't ideal. Of course it's never easy when you miss a session in Monaco and then it's wet, but he wasn't quite there. If you look at Romain's times in FP1 and compare them to Kimi's times in FP2 when it was dry, Romain was there straight away, the way he was chucking the car around and the way he was comfortable with the car. It was really sorted for him and he was really happy, and I just don't think Kimi was happy at all during the weekend."

As in China Kimi found himself in tyre trouble in the race, something that was not expected. It came far too early for an immediate change to the prime, so he had to battle away with a queue of cars behind him until the pitstop window opened up.

"The rear tyres went, which was really odd. He just said 'I've lost the rear tyres'. And at that point we're faced with pure misery. If we'd stopped that early it would have been two stops and we could have been absolutely finished. So we had no choice but to try and eke it out a bit longer. If you look at [Jean-Eric] Vergne, he stopped early and his tyres disappeared.

"I'm pretty sure we would have got nothing if we'd stopped as early as lap 16/17, so we had to push it out. Then on the prime tyre we had no problems, but we were just not quick enough. It seemed quite inconsistent the car. He had the ability to lap reasonably well sometimes, but on new tyres he got virtually nothing out of it. You saw people like [Nico] Hulkenberg do incredibly quick laps when they were fresh, and we got virtually nothing out of the fresh tyres."

He did at least eventually scrape home in ninth place, which was better than leaving with nothing. But two points was so much less than the team had expected from Monaco.

Permane is confident that the team will bounce back, and that there will be other chances to shine over the course of this unpredictable season.

"We've been quick pretty much everywhere, although the first couple of races didn't go to plan at all. But I feel we can be quick anywhere.

"I'm certainly enjoying it, that's for sure. There are a lot of people just saying 'tyres, tyres, tyres' and blaming the tyres, and there's no doubt that they are adding to the spice. But I think there's more to it than that, I really do.

"If your car works in China and Bahrain, why does it not work in Barcelona? I think our car has generally been pretty consistent. OK, we were more competitive in the race in Bahrain, but it you look at qualifying in Spain, that's probably where we should have been in Bahrain if things were working right."

Permane says that while a pole has escaped the team thus far, the one-lap pace of the E20 is consistently good. It's proving very valuable, for example in terms of managing tyre use over the course of qualifying.Lotus clearly does not lack speed

"If you've got pace it makes your life an awful lot easier. In Spain, we were pretty confident we had pace, so in Q2 we just did one run in the middle of the session. The drivers go at 95 per cent so they have no risk of crashing or spinning or locking up or anything like that, and you go through simply, whereas before you have to do a run at the start in all the traffic, a run at the end in all the traffic, to get your two runs in, and it's more difficult. When you've got pace everything's an awful lot easier."

It's no secret that the Kimi steering saga caused some frustration in the Enstone camp in Monaco. But just six races into his comeback the Finn has shown some real spark on Sundays, even if his less experienced team mate has usually had the edge in qualifying. Permane is not afraid to express disappointment if he thinks the drivers haven't got the most out of the package, but overall he's happy with the way they have performed.

"Having two good drivers is obviously going to help us hugely. I'm not saying that other teams haven't got that, but for us it's allowing us to set our car up better, we can trust the results from one car to the other car, and stuff like that. So we're getting more out of the car by having two proper drivers.

"Of course we want to win, and that would be brilliant, but if you said to me you're going to be third and fourth at every race this season, I'll take that now. Because honestly, that will win the championship. That's what's going to win it, is a bit of consistency, while it's up and down like this.

"We want to win and we need to win, and the drivers are desperate to win. I think it's a little frustrating for them to finish so close and not be there, but it's a nice problem to have."

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Lotus have yet to resolve the steering issues that have dogged Kimi Raikkonen since the start of his comeback season.

Raikkonen, who returned to F1 with Lotus after two years away from the sport, has showed impressive pace this season. However, his efforts have been hampered by steering issues.

Attempts to rectify the problem at the previous race in Monaco did not go according to plan as, although Raikkonen missed the entire first practice while his team worked on his steering, the Finn still only managed ninth place.

However, Lotus technical director James Allison is hoping a solution will be found at this weekend's Canadian Grand Prix.

"Monaco demands a specific steering setup which entails different suspension components to enable sufficient steering lock to be employed," Allison said.

"In addition, we tried a higher geared steering set-up for Kimi. You can't test this in advance so the first practice session was used to trial this new setup, but it was evident very quickly that it was not suitable.

"The change takes sufficient time that we had to start immediately in first practice, but he knows the track well. We could also see Romain's pace despite a lack of F1 experience in Monaco.

"Kimi struggled with both the car and the tyres throughout the weekend and I think it would have been a troublesome event for him with or without having run in every session.

"Our base steering set-up has got Kimi on to the podium, but we're still working on refining it to get it exactly to his liking."
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Lotusov capo di tutti capi (Eric Boullier) brani dosadašnje nastupe Kimija te prića kako nije zabrinut sa njegovim dosadašnjim izvedbama...uglavnom prića o tome kako su oni još u procesu učenja, razumijevanja momčadi i novih vozača te da je jako ponosan na dosad učinjeno...ne žali što još nemaju pobjedu no svakako misli da će biti još dobrih nastupa njegove momčadi...opširnije i ostatak priće OVAJ KLIK
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Renault explains alternator failures. Both seem to be of a different reason though. Vettel's overheated while Grosjean's just failed
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