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Odustajanje,ali smatran da je sam kriv,ne moš tek tako preć Massu u šikani sa vanjske strane,pa makar on vozio HRT a ti Red Bull.
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Spretni Pajkan je napisao/la:Odustajanje,ali smatran da je sam kriv,ne moš tek tako preć Massu u šikani sa vanjske strane,pa makar on vozio HRT a ti Red Bull.
Da je onakav potez napravio Schumi ili Hamilton, nekako sam uvjeren da bi pale barem 2 stranice postova. ;) Onim silovanjem Webber je poprilično zasrao Massi trku, šteta.
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gringo73 je napisao/la:
Spretni Pajkan je napisao/la:Odustajanje,ali smatran da je sam kriv,ne moš tek tako preć Massu u šikani sa vanjske strane,pa makar on vozio HRT a ti Red Bull.
Da je onakav potez napravio Schumi ili Hamilton, nekako sam uvjeren da bi pale barem 2 stranice postova. ;) Onim silovanjem Webber je poprilično zasrao Massi trku, šteta.
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Prokleti Toro Rosso i Red Bull !!

Webber: I had help beating Alonso

Although Mark Webber was able to overtake Fernando Alonso twice in Singapore, he admits it was more down to luck than skill.

Webber finished the race at the Marina Bay circuit in third place, one position ahead of the Ferrari driver. However, the Aussie was made to work for it, overtaking Alonso on two occasions.

However, Webber concedes that while those moves may have looked good, the first was down to tyres and in the second he was assisted by Jaime Alguersuari.

"I had another battle with my old mate Fernando. I seem to have spent a lot of time in his company on the track recently," he told the BBC.

"I had to pass him twice in Singapore. The first time was on lap 10, when he was running out of grip from his tyres. I got him into turn 15 after setting him up in turn 14.

"The second time looked more spectacular, into the turn 10 chicane, which is not normally a passing place. I heard a few people saying I caught Fernando napping but, to be fair, he was blocked by the Toro Rosso in front of us.

"I didn't know who it was at the time - I have since found out it was Jaime Alguersuari - but the Toro Rossos are traditionally the later cars to give way.

"All the front-running guys have been similarly affected. In this case, I benefited and that's why I could pounce in turn 10. Jaime snookered Fernando a little bit and I was able to checkmate him.

"It was a rewarding manoevure because I was on similar-age tyres to Fernando, which means, had it not been for Alguersuari, I would probably have had to take a few more laps to get past him, waiting for his tyres to go off."
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kazem ja da nema vise utrkivanja, ovo kaze sve:
I would probably have had to take a few more laps to get past him, waiting for his tyres to go off."
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Mark Webber described the Suzuka Q3 traffic jam involving his Red Bull, Lewis Hamilton's McLaren and Michael Schumacher's Mercedes as an unfortunate accident of timing, but nobody's fault.

All three cars were trying to make it across the line to start final Q3 runs before the chequered flag fell in Japan.

Webber and Schumacher came upon Hamilton as the McLaren - which was not far behind team-mate Jenson Button's car - slowed at the chicane, and went either side to pass it, with Schumacher slithering across the grass.

As a result, neither Hamilton nor Schumacher made it to the line in time, and Webber's lap was compromised having gone off-line.

Hamilton's first lap had been good enough for third still, while Webber had to settle for sixth and Schumacher did not set a Q3 time in the end.

"I didn't want to pass [Hamilton] at all. I didn't want to get involved in any of that," said Webber.

"But the team are saying 'come on, come on, get on with it, we're not going to be able to start the lap, you've got to push through the last chicane...'

"Lewis was obviously waiting for JB. Michael was coming. I thought 'it can't be that bad because Michael's not all over me, so the guys are obviously leaving a bit of a margin' but then when we got to the chicane Lewis was sort of stopped.

"We all wanted to be the one car starting that lap, but with three of us it wasn't going to go. So that was a bit of a mess."

Webber added: "Lewis tried to block, then kept going, because he obviously didn't want me to pass. I got through, but very low.

"It was s**t for all of us. We all just wanted to open up a lap, but 10 minutes is the session time and we all got backed up."

The Australian underlined that he did not think Hamilton had been doing anything particularly wrong.

"He was looking for his three seconds to JB, I was looking for my three seconds to Lewis," said Webber.

He said the compromised start to his lap was just one of several issues that left him on row three.

"I'd started the lap with quite a bit of dirt on the tyres and we saw the reflection of that in sector one," Webber said. "I made a little mistake in the hairpin and didn't open the DRS from the hairpin to Spoon [because the system will not activate without the throttle 100 per cent open]. I don't know how much time I lost with that. It didn't help."

Webber's Red Bull team-mate Sebastian Vettel took his 12th pole of the year at Suzuka, just ahead of Jenson Button's McLaren. But Webber is not sure that the qualifying results are an accurate indication of the race form.

"We saw Fernando [Alonso] in Singapore - a pretty strong qualifying and you would expect him to have a really good race. But he had a poor race. And JB's last stint [in Singapore] was in a different category," said Webber.

"There's no real trend to Saturday and Sunday even at this point in the championship.

"I think generally if you have done a pretty good job in qualifying, you're still going to be okay in the race. But it's still pretty hard to predict.

"Tyres are going to be the key. We'll see what happens with the DRS but I don't think it's going to be like Turkey. Tyres will play a role. A lot of people were pretty keen to save a set."
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Slušam Webbera sad; misli da je bila pogreška momčadi što ga je zvala u boks kad i Hamiltona, jer su mu gume bilo još uvijek dobre. Uvjeren je da nije bilo toga da bi završio drugi.
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gringo73 je napisao/la:Slušam Webbera sad; misli da je bila pogreška momčadi što ga je zvala u boks kad i Hamiltona, jer su mu gume bilo još uvijek dobre. Uvjeren je da nije bilo toga da bi završio drugi.
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Pogreška je definitivno bila - u prijenosu je bio i team radio McLarena koji su pozvali Hamiltona u box u zadnji čas, očito je RedBullov bio ranije planiran baš u tom trenutku, možda su to u Mclarenu vidjeli i pozvali Hamiltona, a u RedBullu nisu stigli reagirati. U svakom slučaju, inače savršeni box RedBulla ovog je puta bio sporiji od McLarena, da je bilo drugačije mogao je Webber bez muke biti drugi, a ovako uz puno muke ipak treći.
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Jako me zbunilo to što Webber u tako dominantnijem bolidu još uvijek nije uspio naći riješenja sa Hamiltonom, a onda kad i je, nije uspio zadržati svoje mjesto...
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Centurion je napisao/la:Jako me zbunilo to što Webber u tako dominantnijem bolidu još uvijek nije uspio naći riješenja sa Hamiltonom, a onda kad i je, nije uspio zadržati svoje mjesto...
pa hamilton je imao DRS poslije ...
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F1NAC je napisao/la:
Centurion je napisao/la:Jako me zbunilo to što Webber u tako dominantnijem bolidu još uvijek nije uspio naći riješenja sa Hamiltonom, a onda kad i je, nije uspio zadržati svoje mjesto...
pa hamilton je imao DRS poslije ...
Pa imao je i Webber kojih 20 krugova DRS.
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King iCool je napisao/la:
F1NAC je napisao/la:
Centurion je napisao/la:Jako me zbunilo to što Webber u tako dominantnijem bolidu još uvijek nije uspio naći riješenja sa Hamiltonom, a onda kad i je, nije uspio zadržati svoje mjesto...
pa hamilton je imao DRS poslije ...
Pa imao je i Webber kojih 20 krugova DRS.
Svi znamo kakav DRS ima RB (mogao si primjetit da je uvijek kad je dosao s DRSom blizu je išao u iber )
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Ali i znamo svi kakvu aerodinamiku ima RB tako da to nije neka isprika. Drs kakav god bio uvijek puno pomaže.
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ne ako je 7. brzina kratka...
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damjan.cule je napisao/la:ne ako je 7. brzina kratka...
da, ako je brzo udaro limit mogo se slikat, ko Hamilton protiv Schumija u Monzi.
Ni DRS onda ne pomaže
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KAkva je to blesava taktika bila?
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Webber wins DHL Fastest Lap Award

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F1NAC je napisao/la:Webber wins DHL Fastest Lap Award
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Mislim po njegovoj reakciji na team radiu ocito nije zadovoljan nacinom na koji je pobjedio :biggrin:
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F1NAC je napisao/la:Mislim po njegovoj reakciji na team radiu ocito nije zadovoljan nacinom na koji je pobjedio :biggrin:
Normalno,pogotovo kad je Vettel svima jasno dao do znanja da ga propušta.Mogao je to Vettel napraviti na puno ljepši način.Jedan veliki minus za Vettela
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dakle, vettel je trebao glumiti da se utrkivaju i pola kruga voziti kotač uz kotač s webberom i na kraju popustiti na kočenju da bi mogli reći da je to bilo ok s njegove strane.
stvarno bih volio čuti kako izvesti propuštanje na stazi a da to nije očigledno?
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npr. prije odlaska u boks odglumit dvoboj i malo se prekočit, blokirat kotač i otić široko (kao popustio pod pritiskom). I nitko nebi posumnjao. Pa McLaren je to znao tako lijepo izvesti dok su Kovalainena imali u momčadi i nitko se nije previše bunio. Očito McLaren ima puno bolje režisere nego što je to slučaj kod RB-a i Ferrarija.
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vidc je napisao/la:dakle, vettel je trebao glumiti da se utrkivaju i pola kruga voziti kotač uz kotač s webberom i na kraju popustiti na kočenju da bi mogli reći da je to bilo ok s njegove strane.
stvarno bih volio čuti kako izvesti propuštanje na stazi a da to nije očigledno?
Ni vozači koji kasne krug onako ne uspore i sklone se,i to na mjestu gdje je najviše publike

Može se itekako propustiti da ne bude očigledno ali Vettel je svima htio pokazati ja sam brži i propuštam ga
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damjan.cule je napisao/la: Očito McLaren ima puno bolje režisere nego što je to slučaj kod RB-a i Ferrarija.

Pa opće je poznato da su Britanci (poglavito Englezi) vrhunski lažovi, prevaranti i muljatori, tako da je to potpuno razumljivo ;)
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