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Vozači su nekako najbolji za odlučivanje ovakvih stvari, a ovako premoćan izbor Alonsa govori sve o tome koliko je dobar vozač i koliko ga ostali vozači cijene.
I ne znam u čemu je problem s tim jer je ta odluka sasvim u redu. Trenutno je po mnogima Alonso najbolji vozač na gridu bez obzira na stanje na ljestvici.
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Ma ja se nadam da ce ga ovo potaknuti da pocne voziti hladne glave bez razmisljanja o rezultatima... Neka pusti da mozak radi brze od ruku i nogu za promjenu... Smanjit malo te greskice i bit ce sve bolje... Fali malo renaultovskih poteza iz 2005. i 2006....
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Evo jedan članak o Alonsu. (izvor: Autosport plus)

Monday, July 19, 2010
Why Alonso should be leading the championship
Fernando Alonso's comments about how he will win the title this year have been viewed as too optimistic by some people. Tony Dodgins, however, believes it would be a mistake to write him off

Some will view Fernando Alonso's assertion that he still sees himself winning the championship as the proclamation of a madman, but let's have a look.

In Bahrain, Alonso qualified third, 0.36s behind Felipe Massa when he didn't get his sectors together on his qualifying lap, but there were no mistakes on race day as he took second place from the Brazilian at the first corner and then full advantage when pole man Sebastian Vettel was hobbled by a rogue spark plug. Alonso's Ferrari career was off to a winning start with a 25-point maximum.

Next up Australia, where Alonso was within a couple of tenths of Vettel's pole but was blameless as he was pushed into Schumacher at the start. His recovery from the back was mighty, until he encountered his slower team-mate and got stuck, which pleased him not a lot.

On to Malaysia, where Alonso was handicapped by Ferrari's daft – they were not alone – failure to set a banker qualifying lap in mixed conditions, which sentenced him to 15th on the grid. He was battling for eighth with Button when his engine failed, but he nevertheless left Sepang just two points behind the championship lead.

In China, Alonso made his first error of the season when he jumped the start and earned himself a drive-through penalty. After three pitstops he nevertheless battled back to finish fourth.

Barcelona brought a slice of fortune when fourth place behind the Red Bulls and Hamilton on the grid translated into second in the race after Vettel suffered a brake problem in the closing stages and the McLaren crashed. With five races down Alonso was still just three points off the pace in the championship battle, behind Button.

In Monte Carlo, Alonso, very quick in a well-suited Ferrari and fancying his chances of beating Red Bull to pole, made his second error of the season when he crashed heavily at Massenet on Saturday morning, holing his chassis and putting himself out of qualifying.

A pitlane start is not what you want at Monaco but he stopped for primes on lap one, got himself out of synch and gave himself a clear track to get stuck into. By the time the rest had pitted for tyres, Alonso was sixth, which is where he finished. Again he went home just three points behind new series leader Mark Webber. A good escape.

Turkey was Alonso's only real below-par race performance-wise. And that was down to the Ferrari F10, not its driver. Four points for eighth place after a dice with Vitaly Petrov is not what he had in mind but he remained upbeat because he expected more in Canada and he knew there was a blown diffuser update in the pipeline for Valencia which had produced great results in the wind tunnel.

The last three races are where it has gone badly wrong for Alonso, but again, nothing to do with lack of pace, more appalling luck.

In Montreal, Alonso could have won but got tripped up twice by back-markers and lost places to Lewis Hamilton and Jenson Button.

At Valencia there can be no doubt that under normal circumstances the Spaniard would have finished second to Vettel and, who knows, may even have had the pace to challenge him.

Although the FIA was correct in everything it did handling Webber's accident and the attendant Safety Car, there is no denying that it should not be possible to break the Safety Car regulations and still finish second, as Hamilton did. One of only two drivers to have his race terminally damaged by the official car's deployment, Alonso should have scored 18 points in Valencia instead of four.
Then, at Silverstone, the penalty for cutting a corner overtaking Robert Kubica was harsh.

Okay, if a driver puts a wheel between his rivals' at 200mph, it's iffy, so penalise him. But if he gets himself alongside an obviously slower car in a second gear corner and then gets ushered towards the grass, don't. Especially if we are trying to encourage drivers to pass each other.

Make him give the place back, fair enough, but if the driver who's been disadvantaged has retired by then, leave it alone.

It was ironic that Nigel Mansell, who has pulled off some of the more spectacular and daring overtaking moves in F1's history, should have been helping the stewards with that one.

"Ah, so Nige is a steward here..." someone said at Silverstone's BRDC barbecue on Friday night. "He's always been a bit of a drama queen. If something happens there's bound to be a casino..." Don't know about the queen bit - if there's a man in the universe who displays not one iota of femininity you'd have to say that it's Nigel Mansell!

Is it really 20 years since he climbed out of a broken gearbox Ferrari that had been leading the British Grand Prix, melodramatically tossed his gloves and balaclava into the crowd, returned win-less to the paddock to ask why it never happened to the other bloke (one Alain Prost, who scored his fourth victory of the year as a result of Nigel's misfortune) and immediately announced his (subsequently suspended) retirement? Not that I'm suggesting for a moment that the two events are in any way related!

The point is that Alonso, through the harsh decision and an unbelievably badly timed Safety Car for some debris on the straight, was penalised to a degree entirely out of kilter with his offence. Good job Spain won the World Cup that night to improve his mood a little, although with Howard Webb letting the Dutch impersonate Bruce Lee for 45 minutes, Alonso must have wondered anew about an anti-Spanish conspiracy, this time with some reason!

So, taking Alonso's season as a whole, in the 10 races to date something has gone wrong in 80% of them, only 20% of which can be attributed to him - or 30% if you want to be tough on him over Kubica.

By any standards that's an extraordinarily unfortunate run. A relentless, combative driver, Alonso, having qualified third at Silverstone in a car beaten only by the Red Bulls, will have fancied his chances of blowing Hamilton away given a decent start. After all he did so convincingly in the same car when they were McLaren team-mates in '07, much to his satisfaction. Even with the start he did have, he should have finished third.

Perhaps he got his comeuppance last Sunday for quietly singing, "Bye, bye, go home, bye, bye, go home..." in the direction of the main grandstand crowd last Saturday after Hamilton and Button could only qualify fourth and 14th respectively.

It was just a bit of humour but it was picked up by the TV mikes and in the following day's News of the World there was an especially sneery-looking Fernando under the headline: "Alonso taunts Brit fans."

When you forget all the hoopla and look at the championship table, it is currently led by Lewis Hamilton with 145 points. Alonso is fifth with 98. There are such fine margins in F1 that if things had worked out in any way reasonably for Fernando over the past three races, he would be sitting there with 137 points and Hamilton would have 135.

Which is why, with nine races remaining, it would be unreasonable to expect Alonso's season to continue in similar vein. And why, with civil war at Red Bull and the McLaren pair split by just 12 points – one fourth place these days – it would be wrong to write Alonso out of the championship equation.

He may be 47 points behind, but that's just two wins in today's money. And, there's little doubt where Ferrari's principal effort will go during the championship run-in.
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The Greatest je napisao/la:Evo jedan članak o Alonsu. (izvor: Autosport plus)

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dugo nisam pročitao pristraniji članak
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Šteta kaj nema link da vidim ime autora.
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Dani je napisao/la:
curumo je napisao/la:
Dani je napisao/la:Pa normalno da im je Hamilton odbojan kada je bolji od njih. To bi sigurno izjavili i za Šumija i za Sennu u njihovim vremenima.
ajme nakaradne logike. pa i Alonso je bolji od njih pa je ipak Hamiltonu pripala "titula"
Pa pročitaj članak, nije ni alonso daleko od njega. ;)
Nije bitno koliko je daleko, bitno je da je Hamilton najomraženiji
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Dani je napisao/la:Šteta kaj nema link da vidim ime autora.
Evo linka:

http://www.autosport.com/subs/login.php ... re&id=2932" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Tony Dodgins

Uh, ne radi link...... probaj direktno na autosport stranicu, pa odaberi kolumnu o Alonsu:

http://www.autosport.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Ništa mi neće, ovaj dan pokvarit'.......... jer želim ( hoću ) med i mlijeko. I točka. :biggrin:
Tko meni ne vjeruje, to je njegov problem. :biggrin:
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curumo je napisao/la: Nije bitno koliko je daleko, bitno je da je Hamilton najomraženiji
Uf da,to je jako važno... :roll:
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King iCool je napisao/la:
curumo je napisao/la: Nije bitno koliko je daleko, bitno je da je Hamilton najomraženiji
Uf da,to je jako važno... :roll:
Pa za ovu temu u kojoj razgovaramo o najomraženijem vozaču današnjice je.
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curumo je napisao/la:
King iCool je napisao/la:
curumo je napisao/la: Nije bitno koliko je daleko, bitno je da je Hamilton najomraženiji
Uf da,to je jako važno... :roll:
Pa za ovu temu u kojoj razgovaramo o najomraženijem vozaču današnjice je.
A ne ne [-X , ovo je tema o najboljem vozacu danasnjice... Tema o najomrazenijem ti je negdje ovdje
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Ja uz najbolju volju nisam našao taj članak. #-o Ali da i je istina, ja bi potpisao odmah da je barem tako svake godine. Nitko ga ne voli , a on ih dere u slabijem bolidu. ;) A o Alonsu, hmm... trenutno nije najbolji koliko god se vi guštali na tu anketu. Previše grešaka za najboljeg vozaća, a tek je polovica sezone.
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Dani je napisao/la:A o Alonsu, hmm... trenutno nije najbolji koliko god se vi guštali na tu anketu. Previše grešaka za najboljeg vozaća, a tek je polovica sezone.
hmmm... mislim da se ne radi samo o ovoj sezoni u anketi. ;)
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Dani je napisao/la:Ja uz najbolju volju nisam našao taj članak. #-o Ali da i je istina, ja bi potpisao odmah da je barem tako svake godine. Nitko ga ne voli , a on ih dere u slabijem bolidu. ;) A o Alonsu, hmm... trenutno nije najbolji koliko god se vi guštali na tu anketu. Previše grešaka za najboljeg vozaća, a tek je polovica sezone.
Pa ne mogu niti ja otvoriti jer se reg plaća na autosportovoj stranici, za takve članke..... na njihovoj početnoj stranici, pod kolumnom Opinion imaš link prema tom tekstu, koji naravno ne možeš otvoriti ako nisi registriran.... :-"
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Tko meni ne vjeruje, to je njegov problem. :biggrin:
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Malo gugla i eto clanka negdje drugdje.
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tomidix je napisao/la:Malo gugla i eto clanka negdje drugdje.
Malo?! Pa gdje nađe ovaj kineski link? :biggrin:
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Haha... eto meni 2. link na guglu kad kopiram cijeli naslov tamo :)...
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Dani je napisao/la:A o Alonsu, hmm... trenutno nije najbolji koliko god se vi guštali na tu anketu. Previše grešaka za najboljeg vozaća, a tek je polovica sezone.
hmmm... mislim da se ne radi samo o ovoj sezoni u anketi. ;)
Po tome bi Šumi trebao biti najbolji kaj ne?
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Dobro aj ne budi cjepidlaka i ne ponasaj se ko balavac nekakav kojem je cilj da mu ne bude dosadno... nisi valjda toliko blesav da ne zakljucujes da se radi o posljednjih 4-5-6 godina... Schumi je pola od toga bio neaktivan...
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Dani je napisao/la: Po tome bi Šumi trebao biti najbolji kaj ne?
Ne zato jer su glasovali i za najboljeg vozača u povijesti. Tu je Michael iz Senne. I to je isto onda nerealno.
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tomidix je napisao/la:Dobro aj ne budi cjepidlaka i ne ponasaj se ko balavac nekakav kojem je cilj da mu ne bude dosadno... nisi valjda toliko blesav da ne zakljucujes da se radi o posljednjih 4-5-6 godina... Schumi je pola od toga bio neaktivan...
Kao prvo daj se odluči koliko godina . A kao drugo vozači su glasovali o trenutnim vozačima. Smiri doživljaj ili uzmi peptoran. ;)
Zadnja izmjena: Dani, dana/u 21 srp 2010, 10:53, ukupno mijenjano 1 put.
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Schumy.d je napisao/la:
Dani je napisao/la: Po tome bi Šumi trebao biti najbolji kaj ne?
Ne zato jer su glasovali i za najboljeg vozača u povijesti. Tu je Michael iz Senne. I to je isto onda nerealno.
Nerealno? :lol:

Ne znam sta vam trebaju ta prepucavanja, koji je vozac najbolji.
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Fernanda i Felipea ( F&F ) stisli u ćošak. Morali su obećat' da će našamarat' ostatak grida na kišnom Hockenheimu.... :biggrin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVe8iOUS ... r_embedded" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=Keug36t ... re=channel" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Ništa mi neće, ovaj dan pokvarit'.......... jer želim ( hoću ) med i mlijeko. I točka. :biggrin:
Tko meni ne vjeruje, to je njegov problem. :biggrin:
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SRV je napisao/la: Nerealno? :lol:
Sarkazam kolega... ;)
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Dani je napisao/la:A o Alonsu, hmm... trenutno nije najbolji koliko god se vi guštali na tu anketu. Previše grešaka za najboljeg vozaća, a tek je polovica sezone.
Mislim da vozači sa grida znaju bolje od tebe, to je ko da se ja sa mourinhom idem svađati koji je nogometaš bolji a netko sa strane treba odabrati kome vjerovati, meni laiku ili čovjeku koji je unutra i cijeli se život bavi time, odgovor je valjda jasan kome će vjerovati. Je, imao je grešaka, kao i svi ostali na gridu no u usporedbi s njima imao je daleko najviše nesreće, a u usporedbi sa vodećom četvorkom i lošiji bolid i uz sve to još uvijek je u igri za naslov, meni kao njegovom navijaču i vjerojatno pristranom sasvim dovoljno da ustvrdim da je najbolji vozač trenutno.
...kažu čekanje se isplati, vjeruj meni lažu ti,
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OK, Alonso je najbolji, samo sto ni ove godine nece uzet titulu.

Momcad mu je kriva, suci su krivi, bolid je los (NOT!), bla, bla, samo nije do njega jer je on najbolji. Hahaha...
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