Znači bez strke, kao što su ostali bili radili u Valenciji, mclaren sada radi, samo testiraju... imaju duplo manje krugova od bilo koga...We've had a question on McLaren's progress. Graham Lamond from North Yorkshire says: "Is it just me, or is anyone else concerned by McLaren's lack of showing so far? They have missed one test (planned), but now are saying they are short of parts. Seems like a lot of lost opportunity over two tests."
AUTOSPORT.com features editor @TeamAnglais replies:
"It isn't just you, we've had quite a lot of questions this morning from folk concerned about McLaren. The team deliberately waited until Jerez to test the MP4-26 for the first time. Valencia was still used to gather useful data on tyres and some new parts, so that wasn't a total loss.
"If you remember the first couple of days at Valencia, a lot of teams didn't do much more than installation laps, systems checks and basic set-up work. It wasn't until here that we really got to see some proper comparable stints.
"So for McLaren at Jerez, it's still learning about the new car, getting over teething troubles etc. We still haven't seen anything approaching a long run, so we can't possibly know how it compares to Red Bull and Ferrari. Given the red flags so far today and forecast rain for this afternoon, it will probably be a couple of days into Barcelona before we get any indication as to where it stands."
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Ma ne da mi se raspravljat'.Dani je napisao/la:Kao f-duct? Stvarno su svi znali sve o tome haha.The Greatest je napisao/la:Mclaren (kako je Martin na čelu) uvijek najavljuje nešto radikalno, neviđeno, nešto što će sve druge zaprepastit'... a pravi rezultati (u odnosu na najave) mršavi.kimi&pablo.u.bmw je napisao/la:a mozda i kriju neka resenja od konkurencije do poslednjeg trenutka?
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A čuj, Dani je upravu. Za f-duct su prvo svi mislili da je neki otvor za hlađenje, pa da se nešto mjeri sa njime i tek onda se skužilo čemu zapravo služi taj "otvor".
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Lijepo ide novi McM
Alonso
25.0, 25.0, 25.0, 25.2, 24.9, 25.6, 25.7, 25.7, 25.8, 26.0, 26.0, 26.1, 26.1, 26.5, 26.6, 26.8, 27.7, 27.2, 27.7
Button
24.5, 24.9, 24.9, 25.0, 24.9, 25.1, 25.3, 25.7, 25.7, 25.3, 25.5, 25.5, 25.7, 25.8, 25.8, 26.0, 28.6, 28.5, 29.7
Alonso
25.0, 25.0, 25.0, 25.2, 24.9, 25.6, 25.7, 25.7, 25.8, 26.0, 26.0, 26.1, 26.1, 26.5, 26.6, 26.8, 27.7, 27.2, 27.7
Button
24.5, 24.9, 24.9, 25.0, 24.9, 25.1, 25.3, 25.7, 25.7, 25.3, 25.5, 25.5, 25.7, 25.8, 25.8, 26.0, 28.6, 28.5, 29.7
"Just being a mediocre driver has never been my ambition. That's not my style." /Michael Schumacher/
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zavisi sa kim ga poredis
Vettel
26.4, 23.1, 22.2, 22.6, 23.0, 23.0, 28.5, 23.3, 24.6, 23.7, 23.5, 23.9, 34.1
Button
24.5, 24.9, 24.9, 25.0, 24.9, 25.1, 25.3, 25.7, 25.7, 25.3, 25.5, 25.5, 25.7

Vettel
26.4, 23.1, 22.2, 22.6, 23.0, 23.0, 28.5, 23.3, 24.6, 23.7, 23.5, 23.9, 34.1
Button
24.5, 24.9, 24.9, 25.0, 24.9, 25.1, 25.3, 25.7, 25.7, 25.3, 25.5, 25.5, 25.7
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Pa u čemu je problem? Jesi ga ti stavio? Jesi. Ok. Ja sam uspoređivao s Alonsom jer su ova dvojica vozila dugi stint od 19 krugova, a Vettel srednje dugi stint.
"Just being a mediocre driver has never been my ambition. That's not my style." /Michael Schumacher/
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ma ne svadjam se je nego (opet ponavljam) zivciraju me kad porede vremena na testovima i na konto toga su ubedjeni kako je neki auto sklopljen i kako ce se ponasati kad krene sezona
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Nema smisla uspoređivati vremena jer neznamo tko je bio na kojoj komponenti guma i ono važnije ne znamo tko je imao koliko goriva sa sobom. Možda je jedan vozil sa 100kg goriva a drugi sa 80kg, a onda je zaostatak od 0.8 do 1sec sasvim normalan.
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McLaren was left frustrated by both weather conditions and a reliability issue on the final day of testing at Jerez.
The team said that blustery winds had hampered its work, and that Jenson Button had not been happy with the car, which spent the final hours parked in the garage after running into a reliability issue.
"A frustrating day of running, with windy conditions compromising our data gathering programme and affecting efforts to find a satisfactory set-up for the MP4-26," said a McLaren statement.
"Jenson was unable to find a suitable balance with the car, and the team's progress was brought to an early end in the middle of the afternoon following the failure of an internal component."
Button still managed to complete 70 laps, but was only ninth-fastest, 1.2 seconds down on his Friday time.
The team said that blustery winds had hampered its work, and that Jenson Button had not been happy with the car, which spent the final hours parked in the garage after running into a reliability issue.
"A frustrating day of running, with windy conditions compromising our data gathering programme and affecting efforts to find a satisfactory set-up for the MP4-26," said a McLaren statement.
"Jenson was unable to find a suitable balance with the car, and the team's progress was brought to an early end in the middle of the afternoon following the failure of an internal component."
Button still managed to complete 70 laps, but was only ninth-fastest, 1.2 seconds down on his Friday time.
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evo malo riječi o McLarenovom simulatoru i koliko im to znači u F1.
evo malo riječi o McLarenovom simulatoru i koliko im to znači u F1.

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"Naši" su zadovoljni današnjim danom. Mclaren je danas prvi puta isprobao svoj DRS.
"We'd planned to begin the test by conducting a number of aero-mapping runs, but these were slightly disrupted because the track was still damp from last night's rain. As a result, we'll repeat that test tomorrow morning, weather permitting."
"Still, we didn't lose too much track-time, and quickly switched our focus to a series of shorter runs towards the end of the morning. These were used to evaluate set-up and establish a general direction for this afternoon's long-run programme, which gave us a very solid understanding of the behaviour of the Pirelli tyres over the course of a stint.
"We also satisfactorily ran our drag reduction system for the first time in anger, and continued work with the F1 hybrid. It's been a very solid day and we are pleased with our progress."
"We'd planned to begin the test by conducting a number of aero-mapping runs, but these were slightly disrupted because the track was still damp from last night's rain. As a result, we'll repeat that test tomorrow morning, weather permitting."
"Still, we didn't lose too much track-time, and quickly switched our focus to a series of shorter runs towards the end of the morning. These were used to evaluate set-up and establish a general direction for this afternoon's long-run programme, which gave us a very solid understanding of the behaviour of the Pirelli tyres over the course of a stint.
"We also satisfactorily ran our drag reduction system for the first time in anger, and continued work with the F1 hybrid. It's been a very solid day and we are pleased with our progress."
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Meni je opet cudno kako su zadovoljni sa tako malim brojem odvezenih krugova. Ferrari i RB rade duplo vise krugova svaki dan, vec vidim kako ce McLaren brze trositi gume nego Ferrari i RB.
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Danas i nisu baš zadovoljni. U jutro su imali probleme sa hidraulikom i zatim pred kraj opet nekakvi tehnički problemi poslije podne. Nadajmo se boljem testiranju sutra i prekosutra.SRV je napisao/la:Meni je opet cudno kako su zadovoljni sa tako malim brojem odvezenih krugova. Ferrari i RB rade duplo vise krugova svaki dan, vec vidim kako ce McLaren brze trositi gume nego Ferrari i RB.

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Button: Lack of laps hindering McLaren
Još uvijek mislim (a ovaj članak me još više uvjerava) da je propuštanje 1. testa i "testiranje guma sa prošlogodišnjim autom" loša odluka.
Kasne za konkurentima a i sada ponovo imaju najmanje odvoženih kilometara.
Još uvijek mislim (a ovaj članak me još više uvjerava) da je propuštanje 1. testa i "testiranje guma sa prošlogodišnjim autom" loša odluka.
Kasne za konkurentima a i sada ponovo imaju najmanje odvoženih kilometara.
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i ja sam govorio da bezveze gube dva dana u Valenciji,evo to se i pokazuje,mada oni govore da je sve O.K-ne vjerujem!
Alonsista hasta la muerte..
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S obzirom da se Bahrein neće održati imaju još dosta vremena za uštimavanje.
Biti drugi znači biti prvi među gubitnicima. Ayrton Senna.


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Opet cu ponavljat ono od prije par dana; meni se ovo ne svidja. Buttona vise nema na stazi nego ima. Kad ga ima, vidljivo je sporiji, bas djeluje kao da ne vozi punom snagom. Po ovome, debelo smo iza Red Bulla i Ferrarija, cak bi se usudio i Renaulta ispred nas. Ovdje je pocela padat kisa oko 8, a i za sutra su najavljeni pljuskovi, tako da ne znam koliko ce se sutra moci napraviti

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Imali su problema sa hidraulikom danas, a i još uvijek testiraju, nemogu još praviti duže stinktove zato što nemaju još optimalnu konfiguraciju,gringo73 je napisao/la:Opet cu ponavljat ono od prije par dana; meni se ovo ne svidja. Buttona vise nema na stazi nego ima. Kad ga ima, vidljivo je sporiji, bas djeluje kao da ne vozi punom snagom. Po ovome, debelo smo iza Red Bulla i Ferrarija, cak bi se usudio i Renaulta ispred nas. Ovdje je pocela padat kisa oko 8, a i za sutra su najavljeni pljuskovi, tako da ne znam koliko ce se sutra moci napraviti
tek kada naprave 1 duži stinkt, koji će biti sporiji od drugih, možemo očekivati brza vremena...
još možemo reći da im je bolid prototip, ne smiju riskirati i da ga unište prije nego što naprave sve testove koje trebaju...
ne brini se, sve će doći na svoje...
a i uglavnom, sad imamo bolid kakav su ostale momčadi imale na prošlom testiranju, budimo zadovoljni što smo u 2 sekunde...
button danas izjavio..."The most laps we've done I think it was yesterday with 77 laps. But we are testing a new car so we are a lot of mileage down on most teams.
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It looks like McLaren is having problems, as the pitboard read nine laps, suggesting he was going to resume the run he aborted a few minutes ago, but once again he immediately pitted.
Kakvi su problemi?
Kakvi su problemi?
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Pregrijavanje vjerojatno... LINKIgor18 je napisao/la:It looks like McLaren is having problems, as the pitboard read nine laps, suggesting he was going to resume the run he aborted a few minutes ago, but once again he immediately pitted.
Kakvi su problemi?
Bolid je užasno nepouzdan, svaki dan, ali doslovno svaki dan obavezno moraju imati nekakve probleme, hidraulika, pregrijavanja, itd...
Jedva da su ga i uspijeli testirati ako se to tako uopće može i nazvati. Pa po odvoženim kilometrima su u rangu trećerazrednih HRT-ovaca i Virgina! Još su k tome i propustili prvi test... Sve mi je to imalo smisla sve do nedavno, sad više nemogu izvući bilo kakvu logiku iz svega toga. Bolid ne pokazuje nikakve znakove brzine u rangu Red Bulla i Ferrarija, a vjerojatno su i sporiji od Renaulta i Mercedesa. Još je i k tome nepouzdan, svaki dan nešto krepa, i onda još nemaju rezervnih dijelova. Mislim WTF??? Jučer je navodno netko neimenovan iz McLarena izjavio da su više od sekunde daleko od Ferrarija i Red Bulla i da tu sekundu trebaju pronaći da bi im uopće mogli biti blizu. I onda Button opet sa izjavama o neotključanom potencijalu bolida, a toga mi je već pun qurac! Cijelu prošlu sezonu su proveli u "otključavanju potencijala".


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Gary Anderson's pre-season blog
I spent a fair amount of this afternoon out on the circuit to see how the cars look and how consistent they are. There are some very interesting features that crop up.
The McLaren just doesn't look like it has got the grip. They are complaining about the tyres, but the tyres are the same for everybody - and the FIA has controlled the weight distribution so everyone is making the same use of the tyres. So it's largely down to aerodynamic balance, especially on entry, to dictates how you use them. It's very easy to accelerate the degradation of the rear tyres if the car is nervous on corner entry.
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I spent a fair amount of this afternoon out on the circuit to see how the cars look and how consistent they are. There are some very interesting features that crop up.
The McLaren just doesn't look like it has got the grip. They are complaining about the tyres, but the tyres are the same for everybody - and the FIA has controlled the weight distribution so everyone is making the same use of the tyres. So it's largely down to aerodynamic balance, especially on entry, to dictates how you use them. It's very easy to accelerate the degradation of the rear tyres if the car is nervous on corner entry.
Ako netko ima AUTOSPORT PLUS PREMIUM molio bi da stavi ostatak teksta
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Sve više izgleda na još jednu 2009.
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Ovo svejedno izgleda lijepo:
1. Hamilton 1:23.914 - 61 pit
2. Petrov 1:25.734 + 1.820 74 pit
3. Buemi 1:26.155 + 2.241 19 pit
1. Hamilton 1:23.914 - 61 pit
2. Petrov 1:25.734 + 1.820 74 pit
3. Buemi 1:26.155 + 2.241 19 pit
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Evo kaj radi Hamilton.
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6 1:43.683 -1.734
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12 1:45.620
13 1:44.216 -1.404
14 1:47.487 +3.271
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Trenutačno je najbrži. Po ovome, zaključujem da rade samo kratke stintove za razliku od ostalih koji idu ipak na duge stintove.
Petrov
Weber
Rosberg
Massa
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Trenutačno je najbrži. Po ovome, zaključujem da rade samo kratke stintove za razliku od ostalih koji idu ipak na duge stintove.
Petrov
Weber
Rosberg
Massa
Zadnja izmjena: Igor18, dana/u 20 vel 2011, 15:49, ukupno mijenjano 1 put.
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