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Ma ja bi za GTR bubreg dao:D.
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evo slika bolida s crash testa...bolid uopce nije ruzan
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evo slika bolida s crash testa...bolid uopce nije ruzan


hm, šta to nije prošlogodišnji ferrarijev bolid ????
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Je ovo je prošlogodišnji bolid, nije ni čudo da se tako nešto piše, sve je jasno kad se vidi izvor
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Jesu to bile neke ekskluzivne slike za 24 sata pa su ih maknili :biggrin:

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16 days to the unveiling of the new Ferrari Formula 1 car, scheduled on 3 Feb. Everything is working according to plans here in Maranello. The first chassis is already in the assembling department of the Gestione Sportiva.
"AUTOSPORT understands that Ferr is working on the front fDuct concept tried by Merc which redirects the airflow to cut drag at high speed"
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The new Ferrari DRS could be ready for the first test, it will be quite innovative although it is not known whether it is at the level of that of McLaren and RB
A new version of suspensions designed by Jonathan Heal, improves traction and mechanical grip.
Changes in the suspension this time are few with respect to the original, waiting for the data of the test with the Pirelli
Rumors say that Ferrari is still trying to recruit Newey for 2013 or 2014, also Peter Prodromou, they will give a range of "irresistible"
So far the negotiations with Newey (Prodromou) have been little or nothing fruitful, which is why Montezemolo will change strategy

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evo neka slika

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F1NAC je napisao/la:evo neka slika

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The new Ferrari will be truly revolutionary, as announced by Ferrari engineers?

According to the Gazzetta dello Sport and Omnicorse Ferrari that I will be presented Feb. 3 at Fiorano, will represent a clean break with the recent past.

The form of the new cars are impossible to imagine, but we can summarize the set of innovative solutions of which the project will be equipped Ferrari 663, applied by the group headed to Pat Fry and orchestrated by Nikolas Tombazis usually gave a hand to which the technical consultant Rory Byrne. Just Byrne studied for this car one of the innovative solutions which will be provided with the project: the deformable structures that need to protect the passenger compartment in case of impact (on account of this solution that Ferrari has taken longer than usual to overcome the imposed by the FIA ​​crash tests) in the area of ​​the car .. Until the 2011 season, these structures were cross dogs this year will be forfeited and carbon in real airfoils and aerodynamics play a role. The Technical Regulation allows to do this as long as the height corresponds to three and a half times the length. Simplify as much as possible the technical concept with an example: imagine two airfoils (with an incidence of up to 5 degrees) connected to the flow diverter which usually are on the outside of the sides and has the important task of hanging up the rear flows arriving dall'anteriore.

Even the sides will be an important addition to the project will be so close that does not exploit the full width afforded by this regulation (140 cm) but are higher than the previous layout. This design of the sides involved the complete renovation of the cores become more narrow and long hours. The objective of this particular form of the sides is to maximize the airflow towards the rear of the car to compensate for the reduction of downforce at the rear due to the abolition of the exhaust blown.

The Ferrari that we will see the presentation will take a very standard solutions of discharges: the terminals that will blow in the lower profile of the rear wing. In any case, we're already working to optimize this concept as they have done both McLaren and Red Bull. The purpose of the technicians from Maranello is to have the highest exhaust to increase the efficiency of the upper profile.

The sides will end very low by using pull-rod suspension and a new transmission from the vertical space at a premium.

Engineers have also decided to reintroduce the front suspension pull rod. This solution was no longer visible in Formula 1 from 11 years (2011 Minardi designed by Gabriel Tredozi). This solution makes it possible to lower the weight low and clean the area where the wheel, with sophisticated aerodynamic taken to apply the brakes, trying to better address the flow of air coming from the wing
front and feed the bottom of the car and then the speaker

Another important aspect that has influenced a good part of the project, the choice was built by Pat
Fry to have a more stretched out riding position with the belt line of the frame that does not exploit the maximum regulatory limit of 625 mm. The result is a hump of very limited connection with the nose that she will not be among the highest among those who see at the start of next season in Melbourne on March 18.
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Italian technical journalist Giorgio Piola has struck again, releasing some details of the new Ferrari due to be launched at Maranello on Friday February 3rd.

The car has been described as “ugly” by Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo and it’s certainly a new departure from the DNA of Ferraris of recent years, but all there are agreed that if it’s fast enough, it will certainly be beautiful!

Among the indiscretions Piola has published in Gazzetta dello Sport today are that the suspension is a pull-rod system, the first on a Ferrari for 11 years. This is what Red Bull has been using since 2009 and many others have followed.

It works well with a lower nose and allows a lower centre of gravity on the car. At the rear it allows the back to sit low, clearly part of Ferrari’s strategy for coping with the loss of the blown diffusers.

The new rules, lowering the nose on the cars, means that the nose droops down.

The drivers are more reclined in the new Ferrari. The sidepods are very narrow and the crash structures to protect the driver are in two wing like shapes in front of the leading edge of the sidepods, above the radiator inlet line. In addition to meeting the crash requirements, they will clearly have an aerodynamic function.

All the teams are working on innovative sidepod ideas to try to get the best possible airflow to the rear of the car to make up for the lost downforce from the banning of the blown diffusers. Sidepods offer quite a bit of freedom to the designers.

According to Piola the front and rear wings at the launch will be old specification, not the 2012 ones.

The exhaust outlets will be at the lower end of the range specified in the new rules, blowing across the bottom profile of the rear wing. But there is a development plan, apparently, to move to what McLaren and Red Bull is believed to be doing, which is to exit the exhausts high up, to blow across the top profile.

The car, under the guidance of technical director and former McLaren designer Pat Fry, is the work of Nikolas Tombazis, with legendary Ferrari designer Rory Byrne a significant contributor in the background. It’s believed that Byrne is behind the innovation on the protective structures in the form of a wing in front of the sidepods.
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cek ovo odispred je također pull rod ? hm zanimljivo
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Ovo na slici čak ni ne izgleda loše. Jedino, koliko se ja sjećam, govorili su da će stražnji dio biti ekstremno mali, čak manji nego kod RB7, dok na skici i nije baš nešto malen. Tko će dočekat 3.2.

EDIT: A spominje se da će i naprijed biti pull rod ovjes, zadnji put korišten od Minardija prije 11 godina (zanimljivo, Alonso je vozio tada za Minardi :D)
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Pull rod na prednjem kraju mi je jako interesantan koncept. Nekoliko sezona bolidi su imali jako poudignut kokpit, da se je omugučavalo bolji protok zraka do splittera, a sa ovim bi se mogao bi biti zančajnije spušten, da bi se omogučilo djelovanje pull -roda. Možda u kombinciji sa Mclarnovim konceptom prednjeg kraja, "snowplough" krila i L stranica (Ferrari je očigledno radio drastične preinake na bočni strukturi).
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Forza je napisao/la:(Ferrari je očigledno radio drastične preinake na bočni strukturi).
Mislim da je to sad područje kojem će se posvetit pažnja.
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damjan.cule je napisao/la:Ovo na slici čak ni ne izgleda loše. Jedino, koliko se ja sjećam, govorili su da će stražnji dio biti ekstremno mali, čak manji nego kod RB7, dok na skici i nije baš nešto malen. Tko će dočekat 3.2.

EDIT: A spominje se da će i naprijed biti pull rod ovjes, zadnji put korišten od Minardija prije 11 godina (zanimljivo, Alonso je vozio tada za Minardi :D)
Nećeš puno vidjet 3.2 ;) , vidjet ćemo samo neku bazu, jer će taj bolid biti kamufliran, staro prednje i zadnje krilo, to znači nećemo vidjeti ni inovativni DRS, pošto se dosta govori o podnici i difuzoru na čemu je radio Byrne moguće je da difuzor bude prekriven kao čini mi se mi se što je bilo na prezentaciji 2010, takođe što se tiče aerodinamičkih dodataka ništa nećemo vidjeti to će se polako stavljati na testovima.

Ono što je za mene novo to je da bi Ferrari mogao imati naprijed pull rod ovjes, to je poslednji imao Minardi PS0, evo kako je to izgledalo.
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Dosta se priča o tom Pull Rod ovjesu, jel neko zna kaki je to ovjes?
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Kenny je napisao/la:Dosta se priča o tom Pull Rod ovjesu, jel neko zna kaki je to ovjes?
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scarbs "I can't see how an efficient front pull rod can work with a high A-A bulkhead (625mm). With a pushrod its installation angle is near 45-degrees. With a pull rod I can't draw it to get anywhere near as much as 10-degrees.

What is interesting is not so much the winged side impact spars, but the way the floor is split between the sidepod and the lower side impact spar.

I initially thought this wouldnt be legal, due to the continuous surface regulated in 2011 to ban the double diffuser. But the 2011 rules sneaked in a revision in that the floor can feature openings forward of a line 450mm ahead of the rear face of the cockpit opening. This sits roughly inline with where the cockpit padding lowers down to chassis height, currently the sidepod fronts and side impact spars sit forward of this point.

A split in the floor will effectively move the floors leading edge backwards. This will have two effects:

Firstly, the centre of pressure will move backwards, as the suction peak at the floors leading edge will be further back. This will create more downfroce at the rear axle & less at the front, which will compensate for the loss of EBD, but the front wing will have to make up the deficit to keep the car balanced.

Secondly, there'll be shorter floor, which should be less sensitive, something Mercedes worked out last year when they designed the SWB & hence short floor for the what they thought would be a lack of EBD effect on the W02.


Losing this front 15cm of sidepods will reduce the volume left for radiator ducting and the coolers themselves. This does tie in with the belief that Ferrari have some sort of 'surface cooling' idea up their sleeves.
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vjerovatno se ide na pull rod zato jer je onaj dio di je monitran gore pushrod je nizi nego 2011. I vjerovatno je bolji protok zraka prema onim krilima pa prema sidepodovima
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Stalno se neke skice i predviđanja vrte po netu, evo da vidimo....

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gringo73 je napisao/la:Stalno se neke skice i predviđanja vrte po netu, evo da vidimo....

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ove dvije slike uopce nemaju veze ni s onim slikama otprije . Pogotovo ova druga koja je ocito fotošopiranja posto vidimo da je jos pushrod iza i napred , krilo je sa F150, nema auspuha ... samo krila monitrana i suzen bodywork .. LOL
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Kolko sam ja skuzio cilj ove slike je usporedba samo sto se tice bocnih detalja...
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ako je ovo istina onda čak i ne izgleda tako ružno. Čudno da, ali ružno ne.
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mislim da bi auspuh trebao jos malo bit podignut i usmjeren prema vrhu krila
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F1NAC je napisao/la:mislim da bi auspuh trebao jos malo bit podignut i usmjeren prema vrhu krila
Zar nebi auspuh trebo bit ko do 2009e na bolidu? a i nos bi trebo bit puno niži
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Kenny je napisao/la:
F1NAC je napisao/la:mislim da bi auspuh trebao jos malo bit podignut i usmjeren prema vrhu krila
Zar nebi auspuh trebo bit ko do 2009e na bolidu? a i nos bi trebo bit puno niži
pa auspuh je ok mislio sam da bude malo vise usmjeren za gore (imas ogranicenje kuta auspuha od 10 do 30 stupnjeva )
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