Formula 1 team - Mercedes-AMG Petronas Formula One Team [F1 W13]

[Scuderia]

Za sada nema nikakvog protesta za onaj F-duct, i RB kao i Lotus zeli pojasnjenje.

[mrd]

Scarborough sprema novu analizu mercedesovog ducta:

Lots of hints and pointers being given to me about the Mercedes F-Duct from designers within the sport, some research and drawings coming up

It seems it might be the Rear Wing being stalled by the DRS duct after all. Looking for evidence now, so I'm getting ready to eat my words

[sofer]

Mercedes were the focus of controversy in Melbourne because of their DRS-operated 'F-duct' speed boost system.
I've been poking around near the car and it's clear how it works.
When the DRS overtaking aid opens on the rear wing, it reveals a hole in the endplates.
That allows the underneath of the front wing, which is at a low pressure, to suck air from there right through the car.
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Unless it's banned, the others will probably all have something similar on by Barcelona in May - but it's a very expensive thing for a small gain
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It goes down the endplates, along the lower beam wing, through some pipes and ducting in the cockpit, down the front wing pillars, into the front wing and out of a slots on the bottom of the front wing.
That reduces the front downforce of the car, which has two effects.
It cuts drag, therefore boosting straight-line speed even more than it already would be just by opening the DRS flap.
But it also makes the car more balanced front to rear in high-speed corners in practice and qualifying, where DRS use is free, because the main problem with F1 cars in fast corners is they have too much front downforce.
They'll have a restrictor in there that they can change from track to track depending on need.
Unless it's banned, the others will probably all have something similar on by Barcelona in May - but it's a very expensive thing for a small gain.

Mercedes' rear wing caused quite a stir during the Australian Grand Prix weekend
It means new rear-wing endplates and tubes in the beam wing and through the car, plus lots of new rear-wing endplates. You're looking at £150-200,000 to develop it.
And all the others will have to move their DRS actuation system. On the Mercedes it's in the rear-wing endplates, which is what allows them to have the hole, which otherwise is illegal. The others all have theirs in the centre of the wing.
I'm not sure they get that much advantage out of it.
Their straight line speed is not as good as the McLaren, which has the same engine and the car is not as consistent.
If it did really work well you might get 0.1-0.2secs a lap, which is a lot of time, but how much engineering has gone in to get that to work, and is it always helping you?
Those are the questions that will be asked.

[Armanini]

150-200 k funti.. nes ti skupoce..

ja se nadam da ce ovo ostat legalno i da ostali nece kopirat cisto da budu bolidi karakteristicniji i mrvicu razlicitiji u nekim aspektima..

[Igor18]

Ak i krenu u kopiranje, treba to ukomponirat u automobil bez da se kompromitira postojeće stanje

[sofer]

Formula1.com analysis of Mercedes' F-duct rear wing:
http://www.formula1.com/news/technical/ ... 4/945.html

[Toon]

Ross Brawn o bolidu i legalnosti ili ne...da ne prepričavam sve samo rečenica koja, po mojem uvjerenju, pokazuje sve što je bitno: "Our wing system has probably taken the spotlight off something that was clearly never intended."
CIJELI ČLANAK

[FerrariF1]

Najveci prioritet su te gume i nenormalno trosenje e sad mozda ce vece temp. u Maleziji dobro doci nadajmo se !!

[vidc]

Mercedes opet ima problema s pre velikim trošenjem guma. Barem su taj problem imali danas. Ako ste malo pratili live timing mogli ste vidjeti da su Msc i Nico nakon 10 krugova gubili više od 1sec na vodeći dvojac, čak povremeno i više od 1.5sec...

meni nikako nije jasno kako to da već treću godinu zaredom oni rade bolid koji ždere gume... i to nakon 2009., gdje su bili odlični kada su u pitanju gume.
sve više počinjem misliti da su više u pitanju vozači...možda su schumacher i rosberg preagresivni sa setupom bolida...

[King iCool]

Mercedes opet ima problema s pre velikim trošenjem guma. Barem su taj problem imali danas. Ako ste malo pratili live timing mogli ste vidjeti da su Msc i Nico nakon 10 krugova gubili više od 1sec na vodeći dvojac, čak povremeno i više od 1.5sec...

meni nikako nije jasno kako to da već treću godinu zaredom oni rade bolid koji ždere gume... i to nakon 2009., gdje su bili odlični kada su u pitanju gume.
sve više počinjem misliti da su više u pitanju vozači...možda su schumacher i rosberg preagresivni sa setupom bolida...

2009. su još vozili na Bridgestoneu. Razlika je...

[FerrariF1]

Izgleda da oni jos uvijek imaju setup za Bridgestone gume

[Scuderia]

„Es gab im Rennen in Australien Probleme, vor allem mit den Reifen. Die haben zu schnell abgebaut.“

„Jetzt haben wir einen Plan, wie wir das in den Griff kriegen.“

Brawn : Imali smo problema u Australiji, pogotovo sa gumama. Brzo su se trosile, ali imamo plan kako da to rijesimo.

[dmarijon]

Tako da će u Malaysisi voziti na kišnim ?

[Igor18]

Tako da će u Malaysisi voziti na kišnim ?

napravit će kompromis sa setup-om.
Podesit će ga više za utrku

[mrd]

izgleda da su provalili meredesov duct. scrabs je na tviteru napisao:

BINGO! bhallg2k from @f1technical found the Merc FW ducts coming through the chassis (arrowed)

These ducts match those found passing from the wing to under the engine cover.

evo i slika

jebote, kako dovuku taj zrak kroz ta creva sa zadnjeg krila(ako je to tačno)? ali opet slabo im to koristi u utrci kad je tamo DRS ograničen na zone.

[spacedoc]

ja bi rekel da dosta pomaže. Taj dodatak daje prednost u kvalama pa da npr dobiju pola sekunde zbog tog ali naprave race setup i izgube pola sec i u kvalama su na nuli ali u utrci na dobitku

[Forza]

Craig Scarborough
More evidence of the merc DRS-ducting, its the tube running past the engine heat shielding

[elder]

Mercedes queries Renault's engine behaviour with the FIA

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/98262" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Toon]

..."napad je najbolja obrana" reče jednom jedan...sve je legalno i s jedne i druge strane dok netko ne "prikupi" kritičnu masu...
...a u mojoj stvarnosti sve je to legalno dok je Mcl ispred ...

[Scuderia]

Kako stvari izgledaju, druga utrka - > 0 bodova

[Saša]

Čini mi se da već duže vrijeme u Mercedesu donose pogrešne taktičke odluke za vrijeme utrka. Reakcije su im ko u mrtvog konja. Gume propadaju, obilazi ih ko stigne i kad izgube par pozicija zovu ih u box. Danas obojicu u isto vrijeme. Pa bar je Ross (bio) maher za taktiziranje.

[Scuderia]

Kako stvari izgledaju, druga utrka - > 0 bodova

Malo sam se zeznuo u prognozi, makar sam bio jako blizu.

Gume najveci problem, valjda ce to rijesiti do Europe.

Dobar je i bod...

[7Times]

Nevjerovatni su.

[FerrariF1]

MSC je najbolje da predje opet u Ferrari ili RedBull Mercedesu ce trebati mozda jos jedno 10 godina da budu na postolju

[Alonso-champ]