Formula 1 team - Scuderia Ferrari [F1-75]

[Alonso-champ]

AutoSpint says Ferrari will change the F2012 sidepods to the Sauber design

[Cuky]

Ako je istina, pošteno. Sauber je 2004. vozio sa bolidom koji je bio kopija F2003-GA prilagođen aero pravilima za 2004. Sad vraćaju uslugu

[Dero]

Ma nek sam obojaju cijeli sauberov bolid u crveno, mogu i dovesti Pereza sa bolidom.

Fakat mi je drago zbog Saubera što su postali tražena roba u F1, kad se samo sjetim da prije 3 godine su imali potpuno prazne bolide bez ijednog sponzora i sve se financiralo iz Sauberovog đepa a danas potpuno drugacija priča. Stvarno ovakvi timovi daju posebnu draž formuli 1.

[dmarijon]

Šta god naprave, ako stvarno uspiju naći rješenje biti će u dobroj poziciji.
Vjerojatno je najgore prošlo i bolid će postajati sve konkurentniji.
A s ovakvim bolidom oni za sada vode u prvenstvu (kao što znamo, manje se gleda momčadski naslov, uvijek je aktualni onaj vozački)

[F1NAC]

ne vjerujem da ce cijeli sidepod promjenit. Eventualno izlaz auspuha nekako prilagodit

[McLewis]

svaka cast svemu, ali da jedan Ferrari mora kopirati jedan sauber???? pomalo tuzno..... drago mi je zbog saubera definitivno... ali ferrari je ferrari....

[Cuky]

slažem se sa McLewisom. Ali opet, kad pogledaš sve je to stvar inspiracije. Možda su u Sauberu do 2 ujutro sjedili pred računalom i smišljali što bi sa sidepodom i onda uletio netko sa prijedlogom "a što mislite da probamo ovako?". Izmodelirali su, vidjeli da radi i napravili tako. Nekad ljudi mogu mjesecima razmišljati, računati i nikad doći do onog što žele, dok netko u trenutku zamisli nešto, to isproba i to radi. Tako je u F1, tako je i u svim životnim situacijama...

[kimi&pablo.u.bmw]

svaka cast svemu, ali da jedan Ferrari mora kopirati jedan sauber???? pomalo tuzno..... drago mi je zbog saubera definitivno... ali ferrari je ferrari....

a sto da ne? ne bih bas rekao da je ferari imao nekih genijalnih konstruktorskih resenja u skorije vreme?!?!
uglavnom je cekao pocetak sezone da pokupi ko je sta smislio i da to ugradi kod sebe nakom par trka!

[Cuky]

upravo to. A tko bi rekao da se prije desetak godina upravo Ferrari kopiralo...oni su ti koji su prvi suzili stražnji kraj, zaoblili bočne stranice, dodali ispuh gore umjesto u difuzor, dodali one "dimnjake" na bočne stranice, malo krilce na vrhu ispod kamere...sve su to neki aero trendovi koje je počeo Ferrari, a slijedili su ih svi do kraja 2008. A sad kao da su ispucali sve ideje i više neznaju šta da rade.

[Dero]

upravo to. A tko bi rekao da se prije desetak godina upravo Ferrari kopiralo...oni su ti koji su prvi suzili stražnji kraj, zaoblili bočne stranice, dodali ispuh gore umjesto u difuzor, dodali one "dimnjake" na bočne stranice, malo krilce na vrhu ispod kamere...sve su to neki aero trendovi koje je počeo Ferrari, a slijedili su ih svi do kraja 2008. A sad kao da su ispucali sve ideje i više neznaju šta da rade.

Ja baš mislim suprotno. Ove godine su su se vratili inovativnom razmišljanju i konstruiranju po vlastitoj ideji. Ovakav radikalni pristup Ferrari davno nije imao.
Jedini problem što kada tako ideš konstruirati bolid po svojem često se dogodi upravo što se Ferrariju dogodilo s F2012. Premalo testiranja i premalo vremena da se shvati novi bolid.
Na to dodaj pritisak medija i navijača i očito da ce sada potegnuti sa konvencionalnijom metodom kopiranja koja ce raditi. E sada pitanje je koliko bi ubiti orginalni F2012 bio dobar kada bi potpuno razvijali auto po svojoj ideji? Možda bi bili daleko prvi a možda je auto uistinu kanta. Očito to nikada necemo saznati.

[Kenny]

upravo to. A tko bi rekao da se prije desetak godina upravo Ferrari kopiralo...oni su ti koji su prvi suzili stražnji kraj, zaoblili bočne stranice, dodali ispuh gore umjesto u difuzor, dodali one "dimnjake" na bočne stranice, malo krilce na vrhu ispod kamere...sve su to neki aero trendovi koje je počeo Ferrari, a slijedili su ih svi do kraja 2008. A sad kao da su ispucali sve ideje i više neznaju šta da rade.

Ja baš mislim suprotno. Ove godine su su se vratili inovativnom razmišljanju i konstruiranju po vlastitoj ideji. Ovakav radikalni pristup Ferrari davno nije imao.
Jedini problem što kada tako ideš konstruirati bolid po svojem često se dogodi upravo što se Ferrariju dogodilo s F2012. Premalo testiranja i premalo vremena da se shvati novi bolid.
Na to dodaj pritisak medija i navijača i očito da ce sada potegnuti sa konvencionalnijom metodom kopiranja koja ce raditi. E sada pitanje je koliko bi ubiti orginalni F2012 bio dobar kada bi potpuno razvijali auto po svojoj ideji? Možda bi bili daleko prvi a možda je auto uistinu kanta. Očito to nikada necemo saznati.

I treba dodat da je prije u Ferrariju bila neka druga ekipa

[dmarijon]

Chatam danas s prijateljem koji je onako, polufan F1 i pošaljem mu vijest da Ferrari kopira Sauber. I prva reakcija je - "katastrofa, pa šta ne znaju sami složit auto..." Lud je.
Ali u biti, tko je više u tome, tko ozbiljnije prati stvari oko F1, mislim da to uopće tako ne doživljava. Činjenica je da su svi preko zime polu-slijepi, zbog zabrane testiranja. Svi nešto tapkaju i od njih 7, 8 koji aktivnije rade na svom načinu i rješenju normalno je da će jednom teorija najbolje funkc. u praksi. Ništa neobično, čak i nema toliko veze s činjenicom da je Ferrari veća ekipa.
Jedan Red Bull koji slovi za tehničke genijalce i kojeg su svi kopirali zadnje 2, 3 godine je bez pardona preuzeo Sauber rješenje. I opet nije bilo ni približno toliko vike kao sada.
Prema tome - neka Ferrari napravi tako. E sad, da li:

- neće uspjeti iz nekog razloga
- uspjet će, ali ne kao na Sauberu
- Bit će isto
- Još će bolje funkcionirati.
Bit će zanimljivo vidjeti što na kraju biti.

[F1NAC]

ne preostaje im ništa drugo . Ako jos nizu razvili one "acer" ductove , onda neka ih uklone jer ono samo ometa protok zraka prema difuzoru . Kad ih budu razvili neka ih opet vrate . Mogu oni suzit straznji kraj i ne postavit auspuh kao Sauber .

[Cuky]

Ako jos nizu razvili one "acer" ductove , onda neka ih uklone jer ono samo ometa protok zraka prema difuzoru

Moram te malo ispraviti
Difuzor je dolje, a ovi acer ductovi su gore. Kao što je vidljivo, zrak ispod njih nesmetano prolazi, tako da oni uopće ne ometaju protok prema difuzoru. Također, njih nije tako lako uklonit, jer ako malo bolje pogledaš slike stražnje strane bolida oni su cijelom svojom površinom otraga otvoreni jer je to put kojim zrak izlazi nakon što prođe kroz radijatore. Da bi se njih uklonilo trebalo bi redizajnirati cijeli rashladni sistem na F2012

[Cuky]

Rumor: Ferrari will try Rory Byrne special floor that did not work in BCN test in China!
Alonso and Massa trying quite a few updates for China in simulator today!

[_dreamer_]

evo opet Q & A, zaista super stvar od njih da na ovakav nacin komuniciraju sa fanovima... Cak sam i ja dobio odgovor na svoje pitanje...


How's the atmosphere at the team?
-Good, even though we know the next two races will be still on the defensive side.


Is is true an entirely new car is in development?
-no, this is false! THere will be significant upgrades but no B version or similar things


How many drivers have been linked with replacing Felipe this year?
-Almost ten, I suppose..

Missing question
-Better they stay focused on their job !

What can Felipe do to get back to his best?
-Stay calm, work with the team, who is fully supporting him

Byrne still is working in evolution of F2012?
-Rory is working mainly on a new road car project and he is keen to give suggestion to the racing team, as usual

La sospensione Pull Road sull'anteriore crea grossi problemi ?
-no...

when does passion become hard work?
-Good question... Everyone who works @insideferrari must have a great passion: this is the key ...


What is Ferrari's objectives for this season of #F1 ??
-We can only one goal, which is winning both Championship


has Ferrari worked on improving top speed, reports indicated that there is a 10km/h deficit to rivals
-We're working on it but remember that top speed is not all in Formula 1

missing question
-Shanghai and Bahrain are very similar, both on the medium side of the aero downforce spectrum


i want to be part of the team as engineer. Would you hire me?
-if you're good enough why not ?

There are a lot of talk about the new 'Ferrauber' being launched in Mugello. How far is it true?
-Very far...


Is any chance of podium in China with dry conditions?
-In all honesty, it will be difficult but let's see if something has changed during these last weeks


SiniF1 Ragazzi a quando i nuovi aggirnamenti ? Ci sarà qualcosa di nuovo in cina ?
-Ci sarà qualche aggiornamento in Cina ma nulla di clamoroso. Più novità saranno in arrivo in Spagna

do you (team and explorers) still feel the spirit of Enzo within you?
-Yes, always and forever!


how many engines do u take to fly away races? Especially when it involves double header fly aways?
-According to the regulations you cannot have more than 47 people working on the car


What should I study if I would like to work at Ferrari one day?
-Engineering is the most common degree...

what is the current approach towards China and Bahrain? and possibly the midseason tests as well?
-Next two races will be on the defensive side, as it was in the first two


How many of the Ferrari team members were moved to tears by Fernando's victory in Sepang?;)
-Several ones...

When are #Ferrari bringing the most amounts of upgrades?
-Spain


How do you transport motorhomes and the rest of the stuff when you have to race out of Europe? By plane also?
-In overseas races we do not have motorhomes. The stuff is brought by place and some by ship


Aren't you afraid that Felipe's twitter account will become yet another way to criticise him for the "fans"?
-No, twitter is a way to communicate and I am sure many fans will take the opportunity to stay closer to him


what is the relationship between SF and @OfficialSF1Team like? They almost seem like Ferrari's Toro Rosso
-They are our customers and we have a lot of respect for them, because we know how tough is this job nowadays


con gli aggiornamenti che arriveranno in Spagna quanto pensate di avvicinarvi alla concorrenza? grazie
-Nessuna rivoluzione, miglioramento continuo



ma ci sono possibilità che checco Perez arrivi in ferrari in questa stagione.massa troppo deludente
-Perez è un pilota Sauber


Too many questions, it is difficult to reply to all! Apologies if several of you will not get an answer this time!


¿ Massa 2013 ?
-Time will tell!


According to Ferrari should the Bahrain GP take place at all?
-We've to respect what FIA and FOM are saying to us...

When and why did u decide to let both of ur drivers use the twitter???
-At the beginning of the season, because they we're asking for it and we believed it is a good thing


Great and surprising performance in Malaysia! but when will you have the new car ready? We cannot expect rain every race...
-There is no new car due to come but we will improve what we have now.


quanto dura il piano di sviluppo di una macchina? A che punto iniziate a progettare quella per l'anno successivo?
-Si comincia in primavera... Quasi come fare un figlio



At this moment, do you think we've got reasons to think that Fernando will have possibilities of win the championship?
-He is the championship leader so the chanches are there..


will Stefano Domenicali make a twitter account? I'm a fans of him!
-No, Stefano is not a big enthusiast of social networks!


Which F1 Ferrari is the most beautiful one in your opinion?
-Easy answer: F2002 and F2004 because were the most successfull!


But the rumor is u ordered Fernando and Felipe to open the twitter, and they have to sent something everyday.. so.. not true?
-Completely false, as many things...



so wat lessons did you learn from first two races ..
-that if you do the best and take all the opportunities you can get some good points even if the car is not too good


What's the aim for the season? Do you think we can still fight for championship?
-yes of course



Is it true that we will see in the Chinese GP a new sidepods and exhaust layout in the F2012 like Sauber C31 has?
-not at all!


Are the data collected from those two races helped you in understanding and improving the car???
-yes, more data you have the better it is


Who do you see as your biggest competitor this season?
-McLaren, Red Bull and Lotus, then Mercedes


voi siete il bello dell'ITALIA <3
-grazie!


Who is the person in charge of the strategy in the races this year? Neil Martin, Hirohide Hamashima or Pat Fry?
-It is a team work but Pat has always the final word


which rule do you want to remove from regulations book?
-the testing limitation


Cosa ne pensate del Gp del Bahrain è ha rischio o no?
-al momento no,

when you will make the biggest upgrade on f2012?
-a bigger upgrade is expected in Spain


Vi piacerebbe il ritorno del Gp di Francia e pensate che sarebbe giusta un'alternanza con Spa?
-sarebbe bello ritornare in Francia ma rinunciare a Spa sarebbe un delitto!


what @alo_oficial do before the race? Like Kimi Raikkonen have a sleep for awhile.
-no he usually does not sleep before races

was the ban of reactive suspensions what caused all the instability problems and aero inefficiency?
-No, because we did not have any reactive suspension...

arguably the Ferrari 500 of 1952 and 53 won a higher percentage of races entered?
-in a much much smaller number of races...



Are you excited to return to the US this season?
-Yes, F1 must be in the US


e' vero che la F2012B avrá un retrotreno simile a quello della C31 della Sauber?
-no, non è vero


Did Massa's chassis upgrade make a difference and if it did, will it be implemented to Alonso's car?
-it was not an upgrade, just a change of chassis. Specifications were the same as Fernando's


how is Mass doing can we see him winning ???
-We hope so. Felipe is here today to work at the simulator to prepare the next race in the best way

ma non si può fare proprio niente per aumentare i test???
-Quest'anno no, purtroppo

when are you gonna do an exibition in Madrid?
-maybe sooner than later


after two races have you decided if Alonso will be the n.1 from now on or you will give Massa some more time?
-there is not a number one or two..


does the team has any influence on the rules? Every season they change and can have a high cost influence
-teams discuss the rules with FIA inside the Technical and Sporting Working Groups and then in the F1 Commission


are there any members of Ferrari who would NOT do the rollercoaster at Ferrari World because they're too scared?
-we never did the test, it is not compulsory!! Many enjoyed, for sure!


Im going to Monza in September, what section do you recommend?
-first corner

do you think the updates on the car will get you guys a pole position start in China?
-no, not really: difficult to believe in miracles

how many people are involved in the F1 team? On the track and in Maranello
-around 75 at the races, around 600 at home


Do you like Interlagos? I have the impression that the team has a great time when it comes to Brazil
-yes we like it a lot. Always great races and great memories there!


I'm interested to be part of your team.. how can I apply for it.
-look for the proper address in http://www.ferrari.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Cuky]

Mislim da ovo pitanje i odgovor daju odgovor na mnoga pitanja (kako sam znanstveno sročio, a?? )

which rule do you want to remove from regulations book?
-the testing limitation

[Alonso-champ]

Znaci ovo kopiranje Saubera nije istina,Autosprint treba uvijek uzimati sa veeeelikom rezervom...

[F1NAC]

There are a lot of talk about the new 'Ferrauber' being launched in Mugello. How far is it true?
@Inside Ferrari: "Very far..."

mene je ovo zanimalo

[Cuky]

Intervju sa scarbsom. Dio koji se tiče Ferrarija (boldano je pitanje):

Despite Alonso’s win in Malaysia the spotlight is very much still on Ferrari after their radical development on the F2012 has yet to show they can seriously challenge for the title. BBC’s Technical Reporter Gary Anderson spoke during winter testing of how the Ferrari seems very inconsistent, looking blisteringly quick one minute and then handling terribly the next, what do you believe to be the reason behind this?

Ferraris problems are complex, I believe there is a fundamental aero imbalance, and this overrides other issues that people have highlighted, especially regards the pullrod front suspension and the exhaust configuration. The cars downforce shifts unpredictably when braking and accelerating, this requires the team to stiffen the suspension which wreck low speed performance. This partly explains the teams inconsistent performance, the car is inherently quick, but lack the balance in all conditions. The team will need to look at the front wing and diffuser; perhaps the change in exhaust position forced by tyre heating issues has lead to a lack of sealing of the diffuser.

Its clear Ferrari have more upgrades coming for china and the bigger upgrade package for Spain. However the latter is not expected to be a new chassis with pushrod front suspension. Indeed the front suspension problems are a red herring masking the aero problems with the car.

If the team can minimise point’s losses to their rivals in the next two races, then the championship is still a possibility. If they are still struggling after the first two European races, then I fear the year is lost for the team.

EDIT: Počela su nagađanja da bi Ferrari u Kini u petak trebao testirati novu, poboljšanu verziju podnice koju su koristili neko kratko vrijeme na zadnjem testu u Barceloni. Podnica, na internetu poznata kao "Byrne floor" je navodno napravljena od naprednijih materijala i koristi toplinu koju proizvodi motor za ubrzanje strujanja zraka prema difuzoru. Sve su to, naravno, nagađanja. Također, spominje se da u Barceloni to gotovo nikako nije radilo, ali i da je F2012 u trenutcima u kojima bi ta podnica radila kako je zamišljena izgledao ubitačno brzo.

Iako ne vjerujem dok se ne pokaže istina, ali s obzirom da je Byrne ako se ne varam studirao kemiju možda je čovjek nešto i iskemijao

[F1NAC]

Intervju sa scarbsom. Dio koji se tiče Ferrarija (boldano je pitanje):

Despite Alonso’s win in Malaysia the spotlight is very much still on Ferrari after their radical development on the F2012 has yet to show they can seriously challenge for the title. BBC’s Technical Reporter Gary Anderson spoke during winter testing of how the Ferrari seems very inconsistent, looking blisteringly quick one minute and then handling terribly the next, what do you believe to be the reason behind this?

Ferraris problems are complex, I believe there is a fundamental aero imbalance, and this overrides other issues that people have highlighted, especially regards the pullrod front suspension and the exhaust configuration. The cars downforce shifts unpredictably when braking and accelerating, this requires the team to stiffen the suspension which wreck low speed performance. This partly explains the teams inconsistent performance, the car is inherently quick, but lack the balance in all conditions. The team will need to look at the front wing and diffuser; perhaps the change in exhaust position forced by tyre heating issues has lead to a lack of sealing of the diffuser.

Its clear Ferrari have more upgrades coming for china and the bigger upgrade package for Spain. However the latter is not expected to be a new chassis with pushrod front suspension. Indeed the front suspension problems are a red herring masking the aero problems with the car.

If the team can minimise point’s losses to their rivals in the next two races, then the championship is still a possibility. If they are still struggling after the first two European races, then I fear the year is lost for the team.

EDIT: Počela su nagađanja da bi Ferrari u Kini u petak trebao testirati novu, poboljšanu verziju podnice koju su koristili neko kratko vrijeme na zadnjem testu u Barceloni. Podnica, na internetu poznata kao "Byrne floor" je navodno napravljena od naprednijih materijala i koristi toplinu koju proizvodi motor za ubrzanje strujanja zraka prema difuzoru. Sve su to, naravno, nagađanja. Također, spominje se da u Barceloni to gotovo nikako nije radilo, ali i da je F2012 u trenutcima u kojima bi ta podnica radila kako je zamišljena izgledao ubitačno brzo.

Iako ne vjerujem dok se ne pokaže istina, ali s obzirom da je Byrne ako se ne varam studirao kemiju možda je čovjek nešto i iskemijao

Ja sam negdje citao da ova podnica štima najbolje s prvom verzijom auspuha i da je po njoj napravljena .

[Dero]

Opet priča o podnici i njenom magičnom materijalu. Mislim da smo prvi put o toj podnici čuli negdje u ljeto prošle godine

[Cuky]

znam, to su isto nagađanja da zbog toga što ispuh nije funkcionirao kako treba nije ni ta podnica...ali tko će ih znat kad o nagađanjima Ferrari ne želi komentirati

[Kenny]

Intervju sa scarbsom. Dio koji se tiče Ferrarija (boldano je pitanje):

Despite Alonso’s win in Malaysia the spotlight is very much still on Ferrari after their radical development on the F2012 has yet to show they can seriously challenge for the title. BBC’s Technical Reporter Gary Anderson spoke during winter testing of how the Ferrari seems very inconsistent, looking blisteringly quick one minute and then handling terribly the next, what do you believe to be the reason behind this?

Ferraris problems are complex, I believe there is a fundamental aero imbalance, and this overrides other issues that people have highlighted, especially regards the pullrod front suspension and the exhaust configuration. The cars downforce shifts unpredictably when braking and accelerating, this requires the team to stiffen the suspension which wreck low speed performance. This partly explains the teams inconsistent performance, the car is inherently quick, but lack the balance in all conditions. The team will need to look at the front wing and diffuser; perhaps the change in exhaust position forced by tyre heating issues has lead to a lack of sealing of the diffuser.

Its clear Ferrari have more upgrades coming for china and the bigger upgrade package for Spain. However the latter is not expected to be a new chassis with pushrod front suspension. Indeed the front suspension problems are a red herring masking the aero problems with the car.

If the team can minimise point’s losses to their rivals in the next two races, then the championship is still a possibility. If they are still struggling after the first two European races, then I fear the year is lost for the team.

EDIT: Počela su nagađanja da bi Ferrari u Kini u petak trebao testirati novu, poboljšanu verziju podnice koju su koristili neko kratko vrijeme na zadnjem testu u Barceloni. Podnica, na internetu poznata kao "Byrne floor" je navodno napravljena od naprednijih materijala i koristi toplinu koju proizvodi motor za ubrzanje strujanja zraka prema difuzoru. Sve su to, naravno, nagađanja. Također, spominje se da u Barceloni to gotovo nikako nije radilo, ali i da je F2012 u trenutcima u kojima bi ta podnica radila kako je zamišljena izgledao ubitačno brzo.

Iako ne vjerujem dok se ne pokaže istina, ali s obzirom da je Byrne ako se ne varam studirao kemiju možda je čovjek nešto i iskemijao

Ta podnicy bi onda radilo ko EBD?

[dmarijon]

Mene zbunjuje jedna stvar. Ta navodna čudotvorna podnica, to je jednostavno drugačiji materijal? Bolji, recimo.
Nije nikakve mehaničke, elektroničke elemente. Kako onda može malo raditi malo ne raditi? Do čega ovisi? Ako koristit tu toplinu, možda do toga da li je karoserija (koja riječ za F1 ) bolida složena tako da se ta toplina usmjerava na nju ili ne.