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Q & A: White on Renault failures
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Q. What was the issue with the Red Bull and Lotus cars during the European Grand Prix?

Rob White: On both Sebastian and Romain's car, the alternator - which converts mechanical energy into electrical energy to power the engine and ancillary systems - failed. In both cases the failure of the alternator cut the electrical supply, causing the engine to shut down very quickly and stop the car on the track. It appears that both alternators overheated. We've checked over the parts thoroughly now and it seems that there were no obvious reasons for the failure, so we are conducting further tests on the dyno at Viry to replicate conditions and double checking the findings.

Q. Were the failures linked to the safety car period?

RW: No. We had evidence that the alternator on Sebastian's car was showing signs of overheating before the safety car period, but the slower speeds prolonged its life expectancy slightly. Of course, when Sebastian went back up to racing speed the problem stepped up again and the result is now well known. With Romain's, the problem occurred very suddenly some laps after the safety car had been withdrawn.

Q. Has this type of problem happened before?

RW: This has never happened with the Lotus team before. We had one issue with Red Bull over winter testing but this was because we were pushing the car and the engine to the absolute limit to find out how far we could go. Once we had signs of issues, we went more cautious with the settings. We did have one issue with Vitaly Petrov's car in Monaco but when we investigated the problem, we found that the alternator in question had completed over 4,000km and was due to be serviced very shortly. As a result we decreased the amount of time between alternator services to a much lower figure. We felt that this was a sufficient measure.

Q. Were the two that failed at the end of their lives?

RW: No, in fact they were brand new parts, which points to the fact that this may be an issue with a particular batch of alternators. Both had been shaken down on the dynos at Viry for approx 400km and completed FP3 and qualifying without any issues and then failed suddenly in the race. Both had completed less than 1,000km.

Q. Is the alternator a Renault-built part?

RW: Yes it is a Renault part. We use various suppliers for the sub-internals but we build the alternators so we are responsible for the integrity of the part. We are now working with all the suppliers to make sure we can get to the root cause of the problem and ensure it does not happen again.

Q. What kind of counter-measures or safeguards are you going to put in place now?

RW: We are looking at several solutions. The first is to use another batch of alternators for Silverstone across all our clients, or a slightly modified design. We are also looking at returning to an older specification of alternator from 2011. Then we are working across all our partner teams to potentially introduce some mechanical and cooling solutions, or changing a few settings on acceleration maps so the running is less severe. All of these will be in evaluated between now and Silverstone, plus we will also look at everything after Friday running and see what additional measures we may need to take.
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Jedna zanimljiva usporedba rednjeg krila na Lotusu E20 i Renault R29
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Evo i Lotus će biti u filmskim bojama ko i Red Bull prije par godina :D
Lotus teams up with Batman film for Silverstone:

Lotus F1 has announced that it will be joining forces with The Dark Knight Rises at this weekend's British Grand Prix, the conclusion to Christopher Nolan's movie trilogy. As a result, the cars, driver helmets and overalls of Kimi Räikkönen and Romain Grosjean will feature the film's logo, along with exposure inside the outfit's garage.

"Our car, the E20, looks superb with the Batman branding and we are looking forward to seeing the reaction of our numerous fans when it takes to the Silverstone circuit this weekend," Lotus team boss Eric Boullier said of the partnership. "We are certainly hoping for an epic conclusion for The Dark Knight Rises E20 in the Grand Prix."

There is an ever-growing tradition of film creators and F1 teams striking business deals. For the Monaco Grand Prix weekend of 2005, Red Bull's RB1 was decorated with a special livery to mark the release of Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith, before supporting the film Superman Returns at the same venue one year later.

The most recent examples include Force India's promotion of an Indian movie Ra.One, Toyota's link up with Warner Bros. Pictures for the second instalment of the The Dark Knight trilogy in 2008, while double title-winning squad Brawn GP worked closely with the creators of Terminator Salvation for the 2009 Spanish Grand Prix.

Lotus sits third in the Constructors' championship ahead of its home race, witrh drivers Räikkönen and Grosjean sixth and seventh in the Drivers' standings
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mislim da se Kimiju više sviđa Batmanovo vozilo :D
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Čudno neko zadnje krilo na Lotusu
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To je krilo korišteno 2010, kao što je uostalom i taj bolid. To je tzv. "show car", tj. auto koji koriste za takve prezentacije, one jurnjave po ulicama grada i sl.
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Auto iz 2010. nije imao grbu na nosu.. a cini mi se da ju ovaj ima.. No svejedno, zadnje krilo mogu montirati koje god..
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A nos je teško promijeniti? Grba se nalazi na dijelu koji se skida, a ne ostaje na bolidu ;)

Uostalom, ima još slika iz drugih kuteva na kojima se jasno vidi da je stražnji kraj identičan onome iz 2010.
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Fascinira me brzina Lotusa. U svim segmentima su dobri (nedostaje im možda nijansa u samim kvalifikacijama, ali ne možemo znati koliko je tu i do samih vozača). Kako se bliži drugi dio utrke, gotovo uvijek su jako dobri ili najbolji.
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Lotus: F1's most improved team in 2012

Heading towards Hockenheim after an impressive display at Silverstone, Lotus is the most improved team of 2012. And Tony Dodgins thinks the team can give the big boys a headache in the second half of the championship

The forthcoming German Grand Prix at Hockenheim is the halfway point in the longest season in Formula 1 history. Heading to it, the constructors' championship looks like this: 1 Red Bull Racing, 216 points; 2 Ferrari, 152; 3 Lotus, 144; 4 McLaren, 142.

McLaren's eighth and 10th placed finishes at Silverstone meant it was overtaken by Ferrari and Lotus. Lotus stayed third after Felipe Massa's stronger performance allowed Ferrari to achieve its best points haul from a single 2012 race (30).

There is no doubt that the season's 'most improved' label belongs to Lotus. Speaking after the disappointment of Romain Grosjean's DNF in Valencia, trackside operations director Alan Permane saw no reason why the team could not target runner-up spot in the championship. They'd love to win it, of course, but overcoming an outfit like Red Bull, he thought, might be asking a bit much.

Technical director James Allison also makes no secret of his thoughts heading to Hockenheim. He wants to be "a bit better in qualifying, and with a little luck to start hounding Ferrari for second in the championship… maybe even open up some clear water between us and McLaren in the process".

At Silverstone, Kimi Raikkonen set comfortably the quickest lap of the grand prix with two laps to go and team-mate Romain Grosjean's time on the same lap was the second fastest of the race. Such things are not always significant indicators depending on who still needs to be in a hurry when the fuel load comes off, but in this instance Ferrari and Red Bull had been hard at it for the win until three laps from the end.
Lotus E20 is proving to be a strong car in 2012.

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Impressive race pace has been a cornerstone of the Lotus E20's performance all year.

Impressive race pace has been a characteristic of the Lotus E20 ever since it appeared at pre-season testing, but the drivers have not often been able to switch the tyres on sufficiently in qualifying. That has masked the true picture.

In Canada, for example, the cars qualified seventh and 12th, prompting Jacques Villeneuve, in his role of Sky TV pundit, to suggest: "Put a Hamilton, Alonso or Vettel in there and they might have won every race."

So close has this year been though, that I'm sure Frank Williams and Peter Sauber have reflected in quiet moments that with Alonso in their car they could be leading the championship…

I don't know if Jacques has any sort of axe to grind with Kimi but I thought it was a bit harsh. Lotus's qualifying positions are a reflection of how successfully it has overcome the tyre conundrum.

Allison thinks they're getting there.

"Silverstone didn't flatter us at all," he says. "If you look at our P3 running (the only dry practice session) I suspect we'd have been in contention for the front row, or the second row for sure. We're making progress in qualifying and we'll be in the mix for the first couple of rows in Hockenheim."

If Lotus can start doing that on a regular basis, it's going to be a serious nuisance in the second half of the championship. Even, possibly, mounting that challenge that Permane had a bit of a grimace about and thought was maybe a bridge too far.

Are the drivers good enough to do that? You'd say so, with a couple of qualifications.

Raikkonen has 83 points on the board having scored eight times in the first nine races, which puts him just 17 adrift of the reigning world champion and within one win of all bar Alonso and Webber.

The interesting thing, though, is that if there's a number one in the eyes of the team, it's very possibly Grosjean. In Valencia, for example, there was one new front wing for the race and it was on the Frenchman's car. Enquiries as to why – did Kimi perhaps not prefer it? – resulted in a "no comment".

Grosjean was second in Canada and third in Bahrain, his Silverstone drive after the early-lap contact was first rate, and he has 61 points, 22 fewer than his team-mate. That's not a reflection of pace though. The difference is that Grosjean has non-scored four times in nine races. That's too often to mount a serious championship challenge, although Jenson Button might disagree.

I was always among those who thought Grosjean got a rum deal first time around. Any kid who can jump in and get within a couple of tenths of Alonso, as Grosjean did at Valencia in '09, had to be worth a longer look.

Two things conspired against him though. First, it was only 18 months or so since Lewis Hamilton had redefined perceptions of what was possible for a rookie against Fernando. And second, the FIA was pursuing its 'crashgate' investigations and the team had rather more on its mind than providing comfort zones for rookies.

Also, those who know say that Grosjean's approach is more mature this time around, as is to be expected with a couple more years of top-level racing and a GP2 title under his belt.

Raikkonen may not be quite the Kimi of the McLaren days but you know that 99 per cent of the time he will bring the car home, and within two or three per cent of its potential. If and when Grosjean manages to keep his nose clean in the early laps, he's going to do exactly the same, and maybe plus a bit.

Will that come soon enough for the second half of this year? You suspect that if, as Allison hopes, the team has made strides with its qualifying performance, it will be automatic to a certain extent. Grosjean will no longer need to try to make amends for qualifying limitations on the opening lap of a grand prix.
The Enstone team are not unfamiliar with sucess

Last year, you heard stories of Enstone internal strife that had come with management changes. That's sometimes inevitable, of course, but Enstone has always had a formidable core of 'racers' at its heart. The team proved in both the mid-nineties and the mid-noughties that with the right car and driver, when the opportunity came its way, it was as operationally sharp as anyone and would deliver world titles – four of them.

Make no mistake though, this is still a very good racing team, a point that race engineer Mark Slade made to me when he talked about having no qualms about going back there to look after Raikkonen, having previously worked at Enstone with Vitaly Petrov.

Last year there were suggestions that some of those making decisions shouldn't have been anywhere near them (not Eric Boullier, it should be said) and noses were certainly knocked out of joint. But the team seems to have come through that. Another encouraging sign is that no blame culture seems to have developed.

At the end of 2011, for example, Allison put his hands up and explained that the front-exhaust experiment had been bold and that, for various reasons, it hadn't worked. His explanations as to why were interesting and, with hindsight, made total sense.

Whereas at Ferrari it might have been looking for someone to fire as buttock-covering took hold, the Enstone attitude was 'c'est la vie', and a supportive culture for 2012.

In something as competitive as Formula 1, where you can't win all the time and are constantly up against formidable brains and budgets, that attitude empowers people. And it means that when they're somewhere close, they're dangerous.

Second place in the constructors' championship? I reckon that Lotus may just do it.

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lotusova izvedba DRSa

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Ja ću pričekati dok Scarbs objavi svoje pojašnjenje. Ovo mi je malo prenategnuto iz nekoliko razloga:
1. Nismo vidjeli Lotus sa otvorenim DRS-om na prva dva treninga, stoga ne postoji dokaz da ima otvor u stranicama kao kod Mercedesa
2. ovaj dio koji je plavo ovdje nacrtan nije vidljiv nigdje na bolidu. Uostalom, teško da tu može nešto i proći pored mjenjača
3. U tom plavom dijelu zrak zbog zavoja izgubi na brzini, a upuhivanje spore struje zraka na gornju stranu difuzora radi upravo ono što nitko ne želi: smanjuje downforce jer se smanji razlika u tlaku iznad i ispod difuzora

S ovime što sam rekao moram priznat da nemam nikakvu logičnu ideju što oni žele postići sa ovim sustavom. Nadam se da će sutra biti suho pa da doznamo malo ivše detalja o tome kako bolid reagira pri korištenju DRS-a. Naravno, ako to ne maknu sa bolida prije FP3.
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Cuky je napisao/la:Ja ću pričekati dok Scarbs objavi svoje pojašnjenje. Ovo mi je malo prenategnuto iz nekoliko razloga:
1. Nismo vidjeli Lotus sa otvorenim DRS-om na prva dva treninga, stoga ne postoji dokaz da ima otvor u stranicama kao kod Mercedesa
2. ovaj dio koji je plavo ovdje nacrtan nije vidljiv nigdje na bolidu. Uostalom, teško da tu može nešto i proći pored mjenjača
3. U tom plavom dijelu zrak zbog zavoja izgubi na brzini, a upuhivanje spore struje zraka na gornju stranu difuzora radi upravo ono što nitko ne želi: smanjuje downforce jer se smanji razlika u tlaku iznad i ispod difuzora

S ovime što sam rekao moram priznat da nemam nikakvu logičnu ideju što oni žele postići sa ovim sustavom. Nadam se da će sutra biti suho pa da doznamo malo ivše detalja o tome kako bolid reagira pri korištenju DRS-a. Naravno, ako to ne maknu sa bolida prije FP3.
to ni meni baš nije jasno . i Scarbs jos nije otkrio .. To valja pocekat pa cemo bolje znat
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Pustili su mu krv.
Po ovome ipak izgleda kako je i nacrtano na onoj skici. Ipak, scarbs ce biti pametniji
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Nece ga imati na bolidu vise ovog vikenda.Nastavak slijedi u Madjarskoj.
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evo, kao što sam mislio, upravo Kravitz rekao da nema veze sa DRS-om.

Dakle radi se o pasivnom F-Ductu koji se "aktivira" samo pri određenoj brzini. Kad nije aktivan zrak ulazi kroz ova dva usisnika na vrhu i izlazi van kroz tunel u sredini ispod krila. Kad bolid postigne dovoljno visoku brzinu zrak kroz centralni nosač ide na krilo i kroz otvore u stranicama ide na površinu krila te skida malo draga i downforcea. Na koji način ga točno aktiviraju jioš nisam skroz shvatio
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Cini se da ga Kimmi ima i danas na FP3.Navodno su bili jako zadovoljni ovim update-om.
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danas ga nema ni Kimi ni Roman. Ima samo ove tunele na vrhu bolida jer su oni ukomponirani u bolid kao cjelina, a ne nešto što se može brzo skidat/stavljat
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Lotus je dobio neku izraslinu ispod nosa
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Cuky je napisao/la:Lotus je dobio neku izraslinu ispod nosa
http://img1.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Lot ... 616014.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Mora da je od nekog sudara :biggrin:
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Kenny je napisao/la:
Cuky je napisao/la:Lotus je dobio neku izraslinu ispod nosa
http://img1.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Lot ... 616014.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Mora da je od nekog sudara :biggrin:
To je strojnica za Kimija ili mjerač udaljenosti od drugog bolida ispred, za Romana. :biggrin: :)
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Izgleda da Lotus uspijeva zadržati momentum, pa čak ga i pojačati. Vidjet ćemo u Belgiji koliko su u Mađarskoj bili dobri zbog konf. staze, a koliko zbog samog bolida.
I poduka drugim timovima: bolid treba razvijati za long runove, a na za kvale :)
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Cuky je napisao/la:Lotus je dobio neku izraslinu ispod nosa
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