Formula 1 team - Scuderia Ferrari [F1-75]

[Bernardinac]

Ih jos da znam njemacki bilo bi super

Prevoditelj njemački-engleski. Bolje prevede

[Bernardinac]

To je maksimalna brzina na liniji na kojoj počinje/završava krug a koja se u Bahrainu nalazi prije polovice pravca...Speed Trap je na kraju pravca, malo prije kočenja

Očigledno se nije mislilo na to?
U tekstu malo prije ovoga quotanog također piše:
"Am letzten Tag brauste Alonso mit 339,6 km/h über die Zielgerade".
kasnije u tekstu:
"In seiner schnellsten Runde des gesamten Bahrain-Tests schlich Alonso mit 308,5 km/h über die Zielgerade."

Zielgerade je ciljna ravnina a linija na kojoj počinje/završava krug nazivaju Ziellinie.

Možda i amus malo "pumpa" situaciju...
Je li Alonso nastavio krug, ili je pustio gas nakon završetka kruga....?
Ovaj podatak svakako treba uzet sa zadrškom.

[Cuky]

a onda se izvinjavam, moj njemački se svodi na hvala, molim, doviđenja

[Bernardinac]

a onda se izvinjavam, moj njemački se svodi na hvala, molim, doviđenja

Ne mora značiti da nisi u pravu, meni ovo miriše da amus malo "loži" ?
Da su oni napisali da je npr. Alonso nakon mjernog kruga nastavio voziti Vollgas do mjesta gdje se mjeri speed trap onda ne bi bilo dvojbe oko ovog njihovog podatka.
Mislim inače, ova Alonsova max brzina od 340 km/h ne mora ništa da znači jer se ne zna sa kakvim je postavkama bolida, količinom goriva, itd. to odvezao?
U tekstu se navodi još da je Ferrari skoro cijelo vrijeme testova navodno vozio sa samo 120 ph(elekt.snage) od mogućih 160?
Ako je ova max brzina odvežena sa 40 ph manjka onda je to već nešto?
Međutim vjerujem da je Ferrari ovu brzinu ipak postigao sa full power, uključujući i ovih 160.
Još se spominje da Ferrari koristi elektročni među gas.
Jedan expert to objašnjava: "to se radi kada imaš probleme sa porošnjom"
Mercedes to smatra rasipanjem energije.
Međutim ima i drugačijih mišljenja. Toyota to već koristi u svom novom bolidu La Mans serije.
Japanci su izračunali da je međugas sa E-motorom najučinkovitiji put za mjenjač, potrošnju i vozna svojstva i da ne utječe negativno na ostale el. aparate ali kada se sve uštima perfektno, a to je veliki problem.

[Cuky]

Jedan zanimljiv post:

AMuS published an interesting report about Ferrari:
http://www.auto-moto...ht-8166040.html/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Essentially:
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Ferrari and the strange Testing strategy:
Bluff or cautiousness?

Mercedes (Costa) thinks they are as fast as the laptimes show, i.e. 1 sec slower than them. They base this on GPS measurements they have done. (Btw, how can they measure other cars with GPS????)
He says that they ran a very strange test program and that Merc could not make any sense about their program and what they were doing.

AMuS thinks that Ferrari could not use constantly the 160 HP of the MGU-K, but usually used 120 HP. All in all they speculate that Ferrari gave away 1.5s because of the conservative engine settings (I assume they mean 1.5s during long runs).
Also, rumours are that Ferrari should be marginal with consumption. It seems now confirmed that Ferrari uses the MGU-K to blip the engine at downshifting.
An Expert: "You do that when you have consumption problems".
Mercedes thinks that this is a waste of electrical energy which could be brought to better use.
Toyota disagrees, they have investigated this for their LMP1 (Le Mans) program and say that doing it electrically has no negative effects and is the best way for the gearbox.

The theory that Ferrari is sandbagging is backed up by following:
- Andy Green of Force India is sure they are sandbagging
- Example Top Speed: In the last day, Alonso reached 339,6 km/h, way faster than the competition. The associated lap was rather slow, 1:35.509, 1.2s slower than his best 1:34.280
- Same story 2 days before: Alonso 338,5 km/h, with an associated lap of 1:40.634.
- And the same the other way around: In his absolute top lap Alonso reached only 308,5 km/h, over 30 km/h slower than what was possible. The Sector times in his fastest lap were not recorded, Ferrari mentioned transponder problems.
- No other team had so many empty data points in the sector time detection. And this in every testing day. Only at the start-finish line and at top speed measurements Ferrari could not hide anything, as this is not only measured with the transponder but also by other means. There are no empty data points with those measurements.
- Adding the best sector times of Alonso, measured officially by Ferrari, the quickest lap would be 1:35.559, 1,279 sec slower than his best lap, which is a "guaranteed" time.
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There are some unclear things in this report, though, but Ferrari clearly is an enigma.


Edit:
I forgot that AMuS says, Domenicali, Alonso and Räikönnen are surprisingly calm. Normally, with one second gap, the roof would already burn at Ferrari.
Also, in that interwiev when Domenicali admitted that they were behind Merc and Williams, after all microphones had been switched off, he added that the gap isn't that big and that they can close it.

Znači, kad je Fernando postavio svoje najbolje vrijeme tad je vozio samo 308 km/h, a u krugu u kojem je vozio 340 km/h na pravcu je napravio 1,2 sekunde sporije vrijeme od svojeg najboljeg

[gjoko-mkd]

Jasno je da je Ferari enigma,ostali gore-dole znamo gde su

[F2004_the_best_ever]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k1Y8px ... l?start=25" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Video govori o pripremama Ferrari-ja za 2014 iza scene, konkrentno; rad na novom motoru, gorivo-Shell, rad u simulatoru, pripreme za prvi test, prvi izlazak bolida na stazu....
Dobar video, mislim da bi ga svaki navijač Ferrari-ja trebao pogledati.

[Cuky]

woaa...di ćeš bolje jutro nego uz kavu i skoso sat vremena videa o Ferrariju. Hvala

[F1NAC]

nadam se da su rjesili onaj problem s gorivom koji ih je docekao 2.12 prosle godine

[F1NAC]

nadam se da su rjesili onaj problem s gorivom koji ih je docekao 2.12 prosle godine

[dmarijon]

Joj, kako volim kad dobijem mail ni manje ni više nego od Ferrarija, da me izvjeste da je za vikend Australija ))
(glasanje za ime bolida).

[Igor18]

Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo has warned that Formula 1 risks emulating "taxi-cab driving" due to fuel and tyre conservation concerns.

A new limit of 100kg of fuel per race is set to make fuel management a major strategic concern in 2014.

Di Montezemolo fears that dynamic, coupled with the constant need to look after tyres, will reduce the spectacle of F1 while simultaneously making the races harder for fans to understand.

"I don't like his sort of taxi-cab driving," was quoted as saying by Autosprint.

"What I don't like is this complexity in the interpretation of the race, both from the drivers' and the spectators' point of view.

"Up until yesterday you'd only look at tyres: most of the attention went to tyre management.

"It was misleading to see a driver in the lead, while realising that you can't consider him really leading because he would soon pit for a tyre change anyway. It was difficult to fully interpret a race.

"These days, on top of all that, you need to add fuel consumption and managing of a race with a limited amount of fuel.

"I prefer the sort of F1 where you need to always push at the limit."
Despite such concerns, di Montezemolo stressed that he was fully in favour of F1's new era.

"We can't be among the ones who don't push for a more technological and innovative F1, because we then transfer this knowledge on production cars," he said.

"For us it [has been] like piecing together a jigsaw puzzle: some things have gone the way they were supposed to, others haven't.

"The difficulty has been the balance between the combustion engine and the electrical one; the thing that has pleased me the most was seeing correlation between wind tunnel and track data, which has always been our problem for the last four years.

"These new 'hybrid' F1 cars represent an extremely complex project. The difficulties also encountered by the others demonstrate that.

"Reliability will be important; it will be interesting to see how many cars finish the first race."

dobro kaže, tog se i ja plašim.
i ovak smo viđali da se čuvaju gume i vozači nisu vozili na limitu onak kak bi se zapravo u F1 trebalo, a sad uz gume moraju i gorivo čuvat..
za koju sezonu će uvest umjesto broja krugova kolko se mora odvozit, pravilo da ko zadnji ostane bez goriva pobjednik

[Cuky]

meni u svemu nije jasno nešto: Di su bili svi oni zajedno sa kukanjem kad su se pravila donosila? tad se nitko nije bunio, nego sad, u tjednu kad kreće sezona. Druga stvar: Ako su do sad šutili, nek šute još mjesec dana, nek prođe 1-2-3 utrke pa onda nek sude

[F1NAC]

Sve mi to baca da smo u nekim problemima ocito cim ldm govori

[dmarijon]

Brine te to da ćeš idućih 8 mjeseci, u prosjeku dva puta mjesečno, slušati izjave: "naši suparnici su brži od nas ali trenutno sve radimo da ih dostignemo."
Aj polako, kako Cuky kaže... vidjet ćemo tek na čemu su.

[F2004_the_best_ever]

Sačekajmo par utrka pa onda da kritikujemo ako bude bilo potreba. Da vidimo da li i koliko Ferrari zaostaje u kvalifikacijama, koliko u utrci, kakva je pouzdanost itd.

[Cuky]

Skica vrlo vjerojatnog rasporeda komponenti kod Ferrarijeve PU. Dostupna je ovdje a čitam da se izvori po kojima je nacrtana skica čine vjerodostojnima

[F1NAC]

dio otprtega Ferrarija

[Schumy.d]

Ferrari planira izgraditi još jedan svoj kamp "Ferrari Land", ovoga puta u Španjolskoj!!
Pokrivat će oko 75000 m kvadratnih i trebao bi biti otvoren 2016.

Cijena - prava sitnica: 100 milijuna eura!

Evo kako bi to trebalo izgledati:

[Cuky]

Alonso je na presici rekao da je bolid koji su donijeli u Melbourne identičan onome sa zadnjeg dana testiranja. To je po fotkama koje su do sada dostupne točno jer je na bolidu montirano stražnje krilo korišteno tada (bez proreza na stražnjem dijelu bočnih stranica) te oba vozača imaju na raspolaganju obje verzije prednjeg krila



Jedino što se do sada nije vidilo na F14-T, a vidljivo je na fotkama iz Australije je ovaj dio ispod nosa koji je ovdje zamotan u plavu spužvu ili što već

[F2004_the_best_ever]

Prema AMuS i Ferrari će staviti zaštitu oko turba kao što je imaju Mercedes i Renault. Mercedes i Renault su uspjeli da ovo "izlobiraju" ali to ne treba da čudi kad Ferrari ima nesposobnog Domenicalija.

[Cuky]

Ispuh kod Ferrarijevog motora


Jedino je nepoznanica u kojem od 3 bolida je ovo uslikano, ali sumnjam da ima ikakve razlike



@F2004_the_best_ever
Od toga nema ništa iz 2 razloga:
1. FIA je zadovoljna Ferrarijevim riješenjem
2. Datum homologacije pogonskih jedinica je prošao pa niti Ferrari smije mijenjati niti suparnici mogu kopirati Ferrari.


Također, F1 Fanatic piše:

One area where Ferrari appear to have out-innovated the competition this year is the turbo housing. It involves the interpretation of technical regulation 5.18.5, which states: “Measures must be taken to ensure that in the event of failure of the turbine wheel any resulting significant debris is contained within the car.”

As a consequence of this Mercedes and Renault have covered their turbo housing with a ballistic cover intended to contain debris in the event of a failure. Ferrari have omitted such a cover and save roughly 3kg in weight. This represents a considerable saving, particularly given the location of the housing and the imperative to lower the centre of gravity.

The FIA is satisfied with Ferrari’s design. Ferrari have likely argued that the turbo housing itself is sufficient to comply with this regulation – maybe they have reinforced it as well in which case they’ll have given back some of the weight saving. It will be interesting to see if the other engine manufacturers decide to tweak their designs, but with the deadline for homologation having now passed their options will be limited.

[F2004_the_best_ever]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doiAnjUv ... e=youtu.be" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Raikkonen & Alonso onboard FP1 Australia 2014

[Alonso-champ]

Na kolko ovo saltaju???smijesno..

[zonelsk]

zasto smijesno?