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Ne kužim kako bi to riješenje sa zatvorenim kokpitom pomoglo u sigurnosti. Zapravo, čak bi donijelo više problema nego koristi. Prvo ovo što svi govore, brz izlazak iz auta (u slučaju požara npr.) je onemogućen. Druga stvar: vidljivost koja ce bit neusporedivo lošija, pogotovo kad je kiša... I još krcato takvih situacija poput npr. dima u kokpitu, ili pak kad se auto preokrene kako ce vozac izac van itd... Uglavnom puno potencijalno opasnih situacija, više štete nego koristi..

Bolidi su dovoljno sigurni i po meni ništa ne treba mijenjat. Pa nitko nije poginuo 20 godina, koja serija u motorsportu se može pohvalit s takvom sigurnosti? Evo uzmimo za primjer motore, motogp, puno lošija sigurnost nego u f1 pa šta bi sad trebali, i tamo uvest zatvorene kokpite na motorima? :) ovakvo nešto i u motogp-u bi se sigurnost drastično povećala http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_7gYNb3GSh4M/S ... sting3.jpg :)

I još jedna stvar zašto zatvoreni kokpiti nebi trebali nikad zaživjeti u f1 je jednostavno zato jer formula 1 tada više nebi bila u klasi formula. :lol: :idea: Formule su po definiciji oblik motorsporta bolida jednosjeda sa otvorenim kokpitom. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formula_racing" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Dakle formula 1 više nebi bila formula, nego nekakva prototype klasa il šta već... :doubt:
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E, točno to što je KIM1 napisao. To jednostavno više ne bi bila formula. Uopće nije ni bitno je li lijepa ili ne, sigurna ili ne...
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Slažem se.
Mislim da je uvođenje tih kupola potpuno nepotrebno.
Od Senne u F1 nije bilo pogibije niti nekih težih ozljeda koje su prekidale karijere. F1 je izuzetno siguran sport, sjetimo se samo nesreće Kubice iz koje je izašao pa mogu reć neokrznut s obzirom na silinu.

Nedjeljna nesreća jednostavno je splet ne(p)retnih okolnosti jer je bolid udario u strano tijelo na stazi (i to baš udario/podletio pod nesretnim kutom).
Jednostavno, ovdje nije stvar u sigurnosnom dizajnu bolida (da se to dogodilo u nekom drugom automobilu on bi na licu mjesta bio mrtav) nego je stvar u propustu prvo organizatora jer nisu htjeli pomaknuti utrku koji sat ranija - a to sve zbog TELEVIZIJE jer ona daje najviše para i ona diktira sve, te propusta CW i vodstva utrke koji su prvo predugo držali SC na početku utrke, a drugo prekasno prekinuli utrku (mrak) odnosno nisu reagirali uvođenjem SC nakon Sutilovog sudara.
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Ima na autosportu članak gdje poznati novinar za sve optužuje FOM , a ne FIA-u.
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"In terms of their bilateral (commercial) agreements with FOM (and by virtue of signed entries into the annual championship), teams are contractually committed to racing wherever championship rounds are staged.

In the (unlikely) event that one of their number unilaterally withdraws from any race that team would leave itself in breach and therefore open to severe sanction by the CRH, unless its absence was through genuine force majeure,
Although a Formula 1 Calendar Commission (notionally) exists, in real terms FOM, as promoter of the championship - made up of individual legs staged by local organisations, who may or may not have direct links to local FIA motorsport franchise holders (colloquially known as ASNs) - decides the final schedule, which is in turn ratified by the FIA - which checks only on items such as safety and formalities.

Thus F1 goes where FOM decides and at times as decreed by FOM - hence racing in Japan at the height of Asia's typhoon season, from end-July to early-October - with late afternoon starts being increasingly prevalent as the championship ventures further east.

The Japanese GP has four times been affected by atrocious weather in a decade, while in the previous 20 years, when it was generally held late in October, it was hit once. Any wonder Phanfone, said by locals to be the most vicious such storm in a decade, struck on cue?
Said a senior F1 figure in as he anxiously scanned the flights screens for news of his flight out of Nagoya on Monday: "I guess if CVC ran golf they'd schedule the Swiss Open for January on the highest peaks in the Alps, and to hell with the quality of play or audiences..."
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FIA plans to implement yellow flag speed limit

The FIA are looking to implement a speed limit under yellow flags to improve track safety on the back of Jules Bianchi's accident at Suzuka. Technical Delegate Charlie Whiting is set to meet with F1 teams this weekend at Sochi to discuss the plans.

Similarly to the "slow zone" that debuted at this year's Le Mans 24 hours race, double yellows would trigger some sort of speed limitation to enforce drivers to go slow, rather than rely on their own judgement on what is safe.

"There are some things to learn and we want to engage with all teams and drivers to make sure we come up with good, sound and well thought through ideas," said Whiting in a press meeting on Friday of the Russian Grand Prix weekend in Sochi.

"One of the most important things for us to learn here is that it is probably better to take the decision to slow down away from drivers. It is better to try to put in place a system where it is much clearer to everybody how much we think cars should slow down in similar circumstances.

"That is what we are working on, starting tomorrow morning, with a meeting with all the teams to discuss exactly that. We want a way of trying to impose a speed limit - it probably won't be a speed limit as such, but there will be a way of controlling speed with complete certainty and complete clarity."

While the target is to improve safety, the exact limitation of the speed limit will be somewhat different to the system in the WEC, simply because races are shorter and drivers attempt to eke out every possible tenth of a second.

"The difficulty of having a speed limit over a certain sector is that it will probably have to be different for certain sectors," he said.

"One thing that would worry me slightly is the fact you can see how engineers and drivers push limits for pit lane speed limit, they would want to be braking at the last possible minute and as hard as possible to get down to the speed limit at the precise place - that is the nature of F1.

"The delta would be the same for everybody. They know what to do, they have same reference map so all have to slow down at the same time."

Basically, such system would also be reasonably easy to build, given that lap deltas are currently already in use in F1 when the safety car is on track, preventing drivers to race around the track when not queuing behind the safety car.

Whiting underlined that while a decision and implementation for the yellow flag limit is not done yet, the race director will be more cautious about the deployment of recovery vehicles.

A meeting earlier in the day also resulted in drivers wanting some kind of skirt around such tractors so that race cars would not be able to go underneath them, as happened with Bianchi.

"We had nearly an hour with the drivers earlier and one of the things that emerged from that and has been discussed, and can be re-discussed, would be some form of skirt. That is something we would need to consider and are going to consider."
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Od 2015. bi navodno moglo biti dopušteno razvijati PU i kroz sezonu...u Singapuru su (kaže Horner) svi bili za, a sada su Mercedes, Williams i Lotus protiv...razgovori još traju
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Zanimljivo. CW je sad faca. Da mi ie znat di je bila proslih godina kad su se po dnu vukli. Mislim da nece bit nis od toga jer jbg ne zele ovi manji timovi s mercovim motorom previse konkurencije
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Smiješno je kad williams nazivas malom ekipom. Da se renault nije povukao 97. taj mali williams bi nabio jos vece komplekse ferrariju i mclarenu nego sto je do tada.
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Dani je napisao/la:Smiješno je kad williams nazivas malom ekipom. Da se renault nije povukao 97. taj mali williams bi nabio jos vece komplekse ferrariju i mclarenu nego sto je do tada.
moj bed. mislio sam na lotus dok sam to pisao. Sve to mozda stoji al tome svejedno dođe kraj. Eventualno do 99 bi brkali planove al 99 su Ferrari i McLaren bili za sebe igraci
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Jesu, ali zasto? Pa williams ima mechachrome motore.
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popusili su motor al su popusili i Neweya, neznam koliko bi i sa Renaultovim motorom puno nabijao komplekse pored Schumachera i Hakkinena, a i nije da su imali baš i vozače za to (1999)
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Dani je napisao/la:Jesu, ali zasto? Pa williams ima mechachrome motore.
I u periodu od 2000. do kraja 2005. su imali daleko najjači motor na gridu pa su bili gdje? Najjači su bili 2003. ali su i tada na kraju izgubili od Ferrarija sa lošom obućom i McLarena sa godinu dana starim bolidom. Daleko od toga da je Williams mala momčad, ali već dugo dugo dugo godina (od 1997.) nemaju bolid za naslov. 1998. i da su ostali sa Renaultom, McLaren je aerodinamički bio daleko ispred svih. 1999. je Ferrari jedini uspio ponešto konkurirati McLarenu, najviše zbog Mercedesove nepouzdanosti, a od 2000. do 2004. Ferrari je imao bolid daleko bolji od bilo kojeg drugog.
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razlika u raspadanju guma prošle i ove sezone...

Ove godine u Sochiju:
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Prošle godine neznam točno gdje, ali po retrovizorima na Ferrariju bih rekao u 2. polovici sezone
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Cuky je napisao/la:razlika u raspadanju guma prošle i ove sezone...

Ove godine u Sochiju:
[ http://i.imgur.com/DwHkvUq.jpg ]


Prošle godine neznam točno gdje, ali po retrovizorima na Ferrariju bih rekao u 2. polovici sezone
[ http://grandprix247.com/wp-content/uplo ... er1960.jpg ]
Ovo ti je Hockenheim 2012, a ne 2. polovica prošle sezone. :D

[ http://www.formula1.com/gallery/race/2012/873/ ]
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Istina da, skroz sam pomiješao...retrovizori su prošle godine bili drukčije postavljeni
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Te retrovizore su imali sredinom 2012., poceli su s "klasicnom" (kao iz 2013.) verzijom, pa na ovu, pa zavrsili sezonu s klasicnom

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Konačno znamo kamo Alonso ide! Vozi za Movistar Stojadin Ferrari F1 team :)
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KiKiFerrari je napisao/la:
Cuky je napisao/la:razlika u raspadanju guma prošle i ove sezone...

Ove godine u Sochiju:
[ http://i.imgur.com/DwHkvUq.jpg ]


Prošle godine neznam točno gdje, ali po retrovizorima na Ferrariju bih rekao u 2. polovici sezone
[ http://grandprix247.com/wp-content/uplo ... er1960.jpg ]
Ovo ti je Hockenheim 2012, a ne 2. polovica prošle sezone. :D

[ http://www.formula1.com/gallery/race/2012/873/ ]
He, baš na ovoj utrci sam bio i nakon trke smo svi sišli na stazu. Kupio sam ove komade gume za uspomenu. Čim trka završi, možeš di oćeš. Gledali smo s dva tri metra vaganja nakon trke.
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speedy56 je napisao/la:Te retrovizore su imali sredinom 2012., poceli su s "klasicnom" (kao iz 2013.) verzijom, pa na ovu, pa zavrsili sezonu s klasicnom

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Konačno znamo kamo Alonso ide! Vozi za Movistar Stojadin Ferrari F1 team :)
[ http://i.imgur.com/Rm1Px5J.jpg ]

Ne, al ozbiljno, mislim da ovo zaslužuje titulu prvaka silly seasone (bez obzira kaj nema veze s Alonsom)

Čak je i frajer sam napisao da ne vjeruje u to :D
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"But it is healthy for F1 that Ferrari, Honda (who return in 2015 as supplier to McLaren) and Renault should have the ability to close the gap otherwise we are going to end up in a very stagnant position.

"It is a bigger issue than just about the teams. It is about what is right for the sport, what is right for the fans.

"It is easy to take a self-interest position, but when you look at what is the right thing for F1, it is to have competition.

"We need to be big enough to say let's open it a little bit and let's be responsible on costs - so there is no cost impact for customer teams - but have that competition.

"So we'll see what the outcome of the Formula One Commission vote is.

"FIA are in support, FOM are in support. Obviously the non-Mercedes teams are in support, so we'll see what that holds in approximately a month's time."
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Interlagos dobio novi asfalt. Druge godine se ocekuje novi kompleks bokseva i paddock
Friday 17 Oktober at 07:35 : Oct.17 (GMM) Brazil had to spend millions on upgrading the ageing Interlagos circuit or risk losing its place on the formula one calendar.

That is the claim of Sao Paulo mayor Fernando Haddad, after inspecting the first phase of $65 million improvements to the popular venue this week.

The biggest change ahead of next month's Brazilian grand prix, set to be the penultimate round of the 2014 world championship, is a full resurfacing of the asphalt.

But by the 2015 edition, F1 teams will be housing themselves in a completely new pit and paddock complex.

Haddad is quoted by the Spanish news agency EFE as saying a federal government programme funded the improvements.

"If it were not for the (programme), we would be in a very delicate and serious risk of losing this race to another city," he said.

Brazil's Globo also quoted him as saying: "It is the biggest reform since 1990 because we were at risk of losing F1 to another Latin American cities like Buenos Aires."

And Haddad was quoted as saying by Totalrace: "We were at a delicate moment because the track is loved by drivers and the teams, but there was a technological gap."
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Navodno bi za 2015. osim preseljenja bokseva trebala i startna ravnina biti preseljena na pravac između sadašnjih T3 i T4, pravac bi bio produljen za oko 100-200m i T4 bi bio puno oštriji i sporiji nego što je to sad.
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ne sviđa mi se to. Fora je gledat kako se vozaci snalaze na startu pogotovo kad im auto stoji na kosini, a i puno izazovniji je prvi zavoj. Ako se ne varam u ovom T4 je ogromna zona za izlijetanje tako da bi lako mogli ostali produzit van i lako se vratit nazad dok u prvom sadasnjem zavoju se desi sranje ako izletis vanka
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ogromna je zona u produžetku pravca, kad se skrene u zavoj odjednom je dosta manja zato jer je odmah iza ograde jezero. A po ovoj mapi T4 bi trebao biti usred tog šireg dijela zone, tako da bi ju se zapravo smanjilo u odnosu na ono što imamo sad. Iako, čitao sam neke najave po kojima bi boksevi i start trebali preseliti na taj pravac, ali da bi F1 i dalje utrke startala sa trenutne startne linije. Uostalom, u motosportu (pa i u F1) nije čudno da su boksevi na jednom, a start na sasvim drugom dijelu staze.


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Ecclestone in talks over Las Vegas F1 race

Bernie Ecclestone says he is in talks with Las Vegas about hosting a grand prix on The Strip.

Ecclestone has made no secret of his desire to see more F1 races in the United States, with a recent attempt to host a race in New Jersey falling by the wayside. However, he now says he has held discussions about a grand prix in Las Vegas.

“Vegas say they are ready to go and it would be on The Strip for sure,” Ecclestone told Christian Sylt, published in The Independent.

However, Ecclestone admits there is no guarantee of a race coming to fruition following the failings in New Jersey.

“In the end there's a million countries that would like to have an F1 race but they can't afford it."

The Mexican Grand Prix is set to join the calendar in 2015, seeing the current number of races reach 20. And Ecclestone expects a record calendar the following year when a race in Azerbaijan is also added.

“It is more likely that it will go over 20 with Baku than we lose a race,” he said.
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Pirelli je nakon Massinih žalopojki promijeno odabir guma za Interlagos s Hard-Medium na Medium-Soft

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